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Omnipresence and Panpsychism

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
If a god is omnipresent, would it then also imply panpsychism?

Only if you believe "god" implies "consciousness." The case can certainly be made, but "consciousness" is such a nebulous and overused word, I'm not sure application of the term is very useful.
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
Only if you believe "god" implies "consciousness." The case can certainly be made, but "consciousness" is such a nebulous and overused word, I'm not sure application of the term is very useful.
how about intelligence then?
 

WalterTrull

Godfella
If a god is omnipresent, would it then also imply panpsychism?
I suppose I could say yes, but that would be a bit disingenuous. I believe there is one mind which creates an infinite number of images. There is no mind in the images, but they are of and in mind.
 

ThePainefulTruth

Romantic-Cynic
Haha... that word is just about as problematic as "consciousness" in being nebulous and overused. :D

Well, fully self-aware consciousness then. But be advised I don't have a dog in this fight, I mean, it's pure speculation whether God exists or doesn't, much less wondering what It's personal life is like.
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
Haha... that word is just about as problematic as "consciousness" in being nebulous and overused. :D
OK, so from your perspective could you think of something less nebulous and overused that might be fitting.

i'm always open to other perspectives
 

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
OK, so from your perspective could you think of something less nebulous and overused that might be fitting.

i'm always open to other perspectives

I'm not sure I have a different word that would retain the spirit of what you were getting at.

One of the issues I have with words like "intelligence" and "consciousness" is that they are umbrella terms. There are so many different forms they take, but it's a one-size-fits-all word in terms of how we use it. The "consciousness" (if you want to use that word) of an omnipresent entity is dramatically different than the "consciousness" of a river, a squirrel, or a human. If they are so different from one another, does it make sense to use the same word? If it does, what does that word really mean, then?

I don't have a good answer.
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
I'm not sure I have a different word that would retain the spirit of what you were getting at.

One of the issues I have with words like "intelligence" and "consciousness" is that they are umbrella terms. There are so many different forms they take, but it's a one-size-fits-all word in terms of how we use it. The "consciousness" (if you want to use that word) of an omnipresent entity is dramatically different than the "consciousness" of a river, a squirrel, or a human. If they are so different from one another, does it make sense to use the same word? If it does, what does that word really mean, then?

I don't have a good answer.

i understand where you're coming from now. like mathematics is not just 1+1 but also calculus; which is dramatically different. calculus includes 1+1 but calculus is much more intricate than just 1+1 and mathematics even more so.

sometimes nebulous is ok too; otherwise we always lose sight of the forest for the trees.

thank you for sharing and being present with us trees at times and with the forest at others.
 

River Sea

Active Member
how about intelligence then?

@Fool
I notice your Religion: Light Impressed with Love

I'm curious have you ever seen white light radiate from within people outward., also have you ever felt fire burn in your spirit heart?

What is intelligence actually, what is relationship with intelligence?
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
@Fool
I notice your Religion: Light Impressed with Love

I'm curious have you ever seen white light radiate from within people outward., also have you ever felt fire burn in your spirit heart?

What is intelligence actually, what is relationship with intelligence?
i've seen the twinkle in an eye. i've seen what love can do to ignite a person to risk it all. love is fire. let your light/fire shine before men.









 
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