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Mother of NYC heiress paid 'deprogrammer' big bucks after daughter 'brainwashed' by college's woke a

Discussion in 'North American Politics' started by Stevicus, Nov 27, 2022.

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  1. Stevicus

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    Mother of NYC heiress paid 'deprogrammer' big bucks after daughter 'brainwashed' by college's woke agenda (msn.com)

    I'm not sure what to make of this one.

    I didn't even know there were "deprogrammers" to deprogram people brainwashed by the woke agenda. $300 a day? As Jeff Spicoli would say "Righteous bucks."

    In addition to the deprogrammer, she enlisted the help from her daughter's former tennis coach. It "might take seven years before Annabella would revert to her old ways of thinking."

    Now, she's fundraising for PragerU?

    I almost thought this was some kind of parody story, but I guess it's real, at least as far as anything is real. But this whole idea of a "deprogrammer"? I've heard of deprogrammers for people who have been caught up in cults, and I've heard horror stories in relation to that.

    I'm not sure if we're getting an accurate glimpse of what goes on at Mount Holyoke.

    Thoughts?
     
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    I think we’re getting an accurate account of what SHE experienced at the college. How the college is overall is hard to say based on this one anecdote. But what she shared rings true to me. My perception as a moderate has been that the left is more interested in indoctrination and blame than in healthy debate. And before all you indoctrinated leftists attack me, please know that I have the same disdain for the Trumpist right.
     
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    It's certainly possible that leftist cult members
    could benefit from deprogramming as do
    religious cult members.
     
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    Any ideology where people lose sight of reality could benefit.
     
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    It appears that she swung from one extreme to another. Perhaps some people like being "brainwashed".
     
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    Her description sounds like those goofy conservative FB memes that cartoonishly misrepresent things with straw men and stereotypes, so if anything was indoctrination it was probably the "deprogramming" itself.
     
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    Professors offering their own homes for students to stay in?

    That sounds rather
    ...

    Creepy.
     
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    You could be a recruiter for cults.
     
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    Massive typo. They meant to write 'reprogrammer'.
     
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    I think too many parents are instinctively offended whenever their child holds even one belief different to them. Or questions their teachings. They just want their child to emulate everything they teach them. And kids just won’t. They need their own individuality.

    I can’t say one way or the other as to this college, since I’m not American and the “variations” I hear from US higher education system is a bit “odd” let’s just say.

    But it does sound like a leftist parody lol
    Life is indeed stranger than fiction
     
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    For being skeptical of hyperbolic rhetoric?
     
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    I think there is already a treatment for being woke.

    It is called anaesthesia.
     
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    For siding with them doctrinaire lefties.
     
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    Yeah, okay. :rolleyes:
     
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    Reminds me that Ben Stein flick where he harps on about Intelligent Design not being treated favorably and instead being shunned as if it's a serious assault on something that matters.
    Or Christians screaming about how not being able to lead prayer in public schools is an assault on them.
    And of many I've met and known who need to build a stronger character. It's not the school, it's not the world, it's her and her own issues of feeling such a way.
     
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    It seems her intrinsic racism ultimately saved her from changing her upper class, white protestant view.
     
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    Interesting reactions in this thread. I think it's at least possible that schools can develop unhealthy cultures. Take the feminist perspective and particulars out for a moment, and leave it there as a general statement. Does anyone disagree with that?

    If yes, I'd be interested in why/how. If not, then it would seem at least possible for a school to become toxic to dissenting and non-mainstream views. That's unhealthy, in my opinion.

    Now, has that happened with this school? No idea, really. Is this person's perspective valid, transparent and an honest representation of their experience? I don't know. She has 'flipped' back to her apparently original conservatism, which strikes me as strange step to take.
    (My general thought being that 'you can never go back')

    So, if we're talking specifics, this whole thing strikes me as 'Who knows?'

    If we're talking generically, though, the topic is a little more interesting. What should education facilities 'stand for' politically? What does a healthy student culture look like? To what level are schools responsible for that culture?
     
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    I'm still intrigued by the idea of a "deprogrammer" to deprogram someone from "woke" back to conservative. What does that look like? How does it work? Are they locked in a room where they listen to 16 hours of Rush Limbaugh tapes all day?
     
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