Mental Illness

[PoetPhilosopher]

She didnt come to bis decense but made incorrect assumptions over an issue that isnt hers to get offended over. And in the case of people wanting to pretend they can treat mental illness and are experts in the field, that does do actual harm.

It really does.

 

[PoetPhilosopher]

I do have to admit that @Shadow Wolf not only hit the nail on the head, she drove it in without splitting the wood.

 

[PureX]

Yes, I'm creepy, but likely harmless.

Except to yourself.

 

[dybmh]

And in the case of people wanting to pretend they can treat mental illness and are experts in the field, that does do actual harm.

Agreed. 100%.

 

[PureX]

Its the fact its very easy to give bad advice.

It's also easy to ignore, as Popeadope almost surely will.

If someone asks to be diagnosed, the only proper and ethical response is you can't. In this case a member is potentially being diagnosed with something that isnt a fiagnosis, and its being done by those who are not qualified to do so. That is not excusable behavior.

You are not qualified to decide if I am qualified or not. So lets just drop it, OK?

 

[dybmh]

I do have to admit that @Shadow Wolf not only hit the nail on the head, she drove it in without splitting the wood.

They're both your threads, my friend. I think you get to make the final call. I will bow out, and concede to @Shadow Wolf.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I do have to admit that @Shadow Wolf not only hit the nail on the head, she drove it in without splitting the wood.

Its something I can't let it go. It's my degree and professional experience. And even in the field, it is very much "you must be this degreed, trained, and certified to even address this issue." And that's because people living and well being are on the line.

 

[PoetPhilosopher]

They're both your threads, my friend. I think you get to make the final call. I will bow out, and concede to @Shadow Wolf.

You don't have to bow out. But sometimes I have to demonstrate tough love, and agree with a side based on personal experience given that I have been a Schizophrenic, and not based on favoritism.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

It's also easy to ignore, as Popeadope almost surely will.
You are not qualified to decide if I am qualified or not. So lets just drop it, OK?

I know I'm not, and I know you not. It's not if I'm deciding if you're not, someone else already did. And in health care, if there is a law, policy, or guideline that regulates and prohibits certain behaviors, you can rest assured knowing someone did something they really shouldn't have.

 

[PoetPhilosopher]

You don't have to bow out. But sometimes I have to demonstrate tough love, and agree with a side based on personal experience given that I have been a Schizophrenic, and not based on favoritism.

I should probably also soften the blow that when I said that, I was mainly talking about other points.

I also found that Wikipedia you posted interesting, dybmh.

 

[dybmh]

You don't have to bow out. But sometimes I have to demonstrate tough love, and agree with a side based on personal experience given that I have been a Schizophrenic, and not based on favoritism.

It's fine. I don't have anything to add. You think Shadow Wolf is spot on, I trust your judgement.

 

[PoetPhilosopher]

It's fine. I don't have anything to add. You think Shadow Wolf is spot on, I trust your judgement.

Whatever you think is best. I'm sorry I created an environment in which you thought I, as the OP, had the final say in all matters.

 

[The Reverend Bob]

It's also easy to ignore, as Popeadope almost surely will.
You are not qualified to decide if I am qualified or not. So lets just drop it, OK?

I have no problem with people who do struggle with mental health issues giving advice and their opinion but I am very, very wary of people who do not look at them as equals doing so. My brothers and sisters who do struggle with these issue have life experiences and insight into these issues and can give very good advice. Those who do not see them as equal, who disregard their opinions because they think "heck, these people care crazy" or look down upon them or try to coddle them or disparage them should not give them advice. They do not need those people telling them who they are and what they should do. They don't need people like that. They are human beings and you treat them thusly.
Like the Latin proverb goes: I am a human being and nothing human is alien or inhuman to me. If you can't see those who struggle with these issues as nothing but another human then step out of the way, if you see them as insane or crazy and therefore as less than human then you have a problem not them

 

[PureX]

I have no problem with people who do struggle with mental health issues giving advice and their opinion but I am very, very wary of people who do not look at them as equals doing so. My brothers and sisters who do struggle with these issue have life experiences and insight into these issues and can give very good advice. Those who do not see them as equal, who disregard their opinions because they think "heck, these people care crazy" or look down upon them or try to coddle them or disparage them should not give them advice. They do not need those people telling them who they are and what they should do. They don't need people like that. They are human beings and you treat them thusly.
Like the Latin proverb goes: I am a human being and nothing human is alien or inhuman to me. If you can't see those who struggle with these issues as nothing but another human then step out of the way, if you see them as insane or crazy and therefore as less than human then you have a problem not them

I responded to Popeadope as one addict to another. And as one recovered addict to one not recovered. He knows this, and I know it. And I'm hoping my response might have been of some help to others in a similar situation. Beyond that, I'm really not at all concerned that people who have not experienced the same difficulties are 'offended' by my post.