Jesus does want us to practice circumcision of the heart and not of the flesh.
You mean the blood pump? You first.
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Jesus does want us to practice circumcision of the heart and not of the flesh.
Oh baloney. Jesus was circumcised. All Jewish boys were. Where in5 scripture does Jesus say to stop circumcision?Jesus didn't write the book of Romans, and the verse is in context, ie it is referring to the practice of circumcision, (jewish practice.
The context is to not practice circumcision,
So, no correlation there.
The correlation could be that Jesus didn't practice circumcision. Only The book of Luke mentions that about yeshua, and the book of Acts is a bizarre hodge podge.
Have you researched whether it was Yeshua who said, 'not that it is from Moses, ...'@Desert Snake
John 6:28-29. Jesus is reported to have mentioned circumcision only once: Jesus answered and said to them, "I did one work, and you all marvel. "Moses therefore gave you circumcision (not that it is from Moses, but from the fathers), and you circumcise a man on the Sabbath.
Why Christians need not be circumcised
www.circumstitions.com/Xy.html
bath.
Oh baloney. Jesus was circumcised. All Jewish boys were. Where in5 scripture does Jesus say to stop circumcision?
@Desert Snake
John 6:28-29. Jesus is reported to have mentioned circumcision only once: Jesus answered and said to them, "I did one work, and you all marvel. "Moses therefore gave you circumcision (not that it is from Moses, but from the fathers), and you circumcise a man on the Sabbath.
Why Christians need not be circumcised
www.circumstitions.com/Xy.html
bath.
Have you researched whether it was Yeshua who said, 'not that it is from Moses, ...'
Because that seems like an added reference. Yeshua clearly is attributing the practice to Moses.
John 7:21-24
Not sure how this means much either way, Jeshua does say 'given you', not 'given us'.[practice of circumcision.
This goes along with book of Galatians, however book of Galatians doesn't mention the practice being given to Abraam, only equates it the Mosaic laws.
Actually, Jesua doesn't mention Abraam, either.
It doesn't match John 7, or GalatiansGiven YOU is proper..
Are you Jewish? Is that why you say Jesua?
Circumcision was a permanent sign that God would fulfill the promises He made to Abraham. It is a sign that points to the necessity of the circumcision of the heart and putting away of our sinful flesh.
Genesis 17:10-14 10This is my covenant with you and your descendants after you, the covenant you are to keep: Every male among you shall be circumcised.
11You are to undergo circumcision, and it will be the sign of the covenant between me and you.
12For the generations to come every male among you who is eight days old must be circumcised, including those born in your household or bought with money from a foreigner-those who are not your offspring.
13Whether born in your household or bought with your money, they must be circumcised. My covenant in your flesh is to be an everlasting covenant.
14Any uncircumcised male, who has not been circumcised in the flesh, will be cut off from his people; he has broken my covenant."
It doesn't match John 7, or Galatians
Sure, I would anyway. However so does John 7, and Galatians, and Jesus religion traditionally.So you reject Genesis 17?
Sure, I would anyway. However so does John 7, and Galatians, and Jesus religion traditionally.
So, if you don't reject those verses, then one might say the jews were rectified somehow, or such. Though, in Galatians, physical circumcision is noted, it just can't be combined with salvation via faith. In other words, even Galatians rejects physical circumcision.
I don't think it's that simple. First, there was a context, for Jesus, many jewish followers, then neither the christian bible, nor the jewish bible, were canonized, until after Jeshua was in Israel.Galatians wasn't written until 50 or 60 AD... long after the crucifixion and long after "Christianity" had begun to come into its own..
There was a lot of dispute.. James thought Gentiles first had to become Jews to be part of the Christ Cult. (be circumcised) Paul said no.. There was a big confrontation about it in Jerusalem.. Paul prevailed.
Why don't you explain how 'before Abraham', means 'Jewish'.
I believe that guy, Paul, created the religion.
Nonsensical objection to my statement.