Subduction Zone
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If it was you could support your claims. I have never seen you do that here.
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Jesus' Four Failed Prophecies About Him Returning In The Lifetimes Of His Apostles
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Trailblazer
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You might want to redo that post because it came to me, not to SeekingAllTruth.
samtonga43
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Immediate experience of God.
Trailblazer
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Anyone can SAY that and many people do... Got any proof?
samtonga43
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I addressed SAT thus:
There you are, SeekingAllTruth!
Make sure you don't refuse to be guided.
Subduction Zone
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The problem with "direct experience of God" and similar methods is that one can come to "know" that Noah lived 450 million years ago.
samtonga43
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What type of proof?
Please don't tell me you think there is only ONE type of truth.
samtonga43
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This obsession with Noah is worrying, SZ.
Direct experience of God has nothing to do with when Noah lived. You're off on your irrational tangent again.
Trailblazer
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I said proof, not truth.What type of proof?
Please don't tell me you think there is only ONE type of truth.
No, I do not believe there is only ONE type of truth, that is what Christians believe.
Trailblazer
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Only Jesus and the other Messengers of God had any direct experience of God.
Trailblazer
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is that nobody except the Messengers of God ever had any such experience, and even that experience was not direct experience of God because it was through the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit does not come to ordinary people or live inside of them, in spite of what Christians believe.
Subduction Zone
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You really should pay attention to the conversations that you butt in on.
The Noah myth is a clear test of the degree of rationality of a Christian believers It is one step below a Flat Earth belief, which is also usually Bible based.
Subduction Zone
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And there claims are just as suspect as anyone else's.
Yahcubs777
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The fall of Man wasn't Noah. The fall of Man happened roughly 450 million years ago. Have you ever wondered what inspired archaeology? Why does it sound like Ark key ology?
Trailblazer
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You should suspect their claims before you would consider believing them.
Yahcubs777
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That's what has not been well understood. You are trying to determine what is true and what isn't by the brain. The Word of GOD is food for the Spirit. If I gave you a stone and told you it's bread would you est it? No you can't it's not eat- able. That is how you know what is the Word of GOD because it is eat-able.
Yahcubs777
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The earth spoken of in the Bible is the new earth when it is transfigured. You should really do your research before you come and make a fool of yourself.
Trailblazer
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Both have to be employed.
The mind working through the brain is the power of the human spirit (rational soul). The soul is like a lamp and the mind is the light that shines through the lamp.
The best way to discover Truth is through the mind assisted by the spirit of faith. Anything else such as emotion can lead us astray. God gave us a mind to use for reasoning, but unless it is assisted by the spirit of faith, it cannot become acquainted with the divine mysteries.
“The human spirit which distinguishes man from the animal is the rational soul, and these two names—the human spirit and the rational soul—designate one thing..…
But the human spirit, unless assisted by the spirit of faith, does not become acquainted with the divine secrets and the heavenly realities. It is like a mirror which, although clear, polished and brilliant, is still in need of light. Until a ray of the sun reflects upon it, it cannot discover the heavenly secrets.
But the mind is the power of the human spirit. Spirit is the lamp; mind is the light which shines from the lamp. Spirit is the tree, and the mind is the fruit. Mind is the perfection of the spirit and is its essential quality, as the sun’s rays are the essential necessity of the sun.” Some Answered Questions, pp. 208-209
Subduction Zone
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Sorry, that is pure nonsense that is neither biblical nor scientific. And you still are claiming that God is a liar. Nor are you being consistent.
Yahcubs777
Active Member
The mind is not the brain. The mind is of the Spirit. When you are using your brain to determine things your perspective is flawed. Why? Because the brain of this mortal body is designed to know and understand life in this terrestrial only.
And it's not anything else except that the spirit which was defined by the ARK of the Covenant which is the container of GODs revelations. Thus the Spirit Being is what contains the Words of GOD which you can only have in you by meditating in revelations, assimilating them into your Spirit, and then they are known by you. It's never been about belief. It's believing that GODs Word can transfigure you in life so that you will give the time necessary to the revelations to eat them.
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