Jesus was before Abraham because the soul of Jesus existed in heaven long before Abraham was born. That does not mean Jesus is God.
‘I tell you the truth,’ Jesus answered, ‘before Abraham was born, I am!’ At this, they picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus hid himself, slipping away from the temple grounds” The violent response of the Jews to Jesus’ “I AM” statement indicates they clearly understood what He was declaring—that He was the eternal God incarnate. Jesus was equating Himself with the "I AM" title God gave Himself in Exodus 3:14
If Jesus had merely wanted to say He existed before Abraham’s time, He would have said, “Before Abraham, I was.” The Greek words translated “was,” in the case of Abraham, and “am,” in the case of Jesus, are quite different. Abraham was “brought into being,” but Jesus existed eternally (see John 1:1
)). But Jesus committed no blasphemy; He was and is God, the second Person of the Godhead, equal to the Father in every way.
I AM the Bread of Life
I AM the Light of the World
I AM the Door of the Sheep
I AM the Good Shepherd
I AM the Resurrection and the Life
I AM the Way, the Truth and the Life
I AM the True Vine
What did Jesus mean when He said 'I AM'? | GotQuestions.org
case, to calm the storm. Can't you read?
The same was in the beginning with God.
All things were made by Him, and without Him was not anything made that was made. John 1
For by him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things were created through him and for him. Colossians 1:16
is complete blarney and contradicts John 1, which says that all things were made by God.
So… All things were made by God. No contradiction unless one is desperate to find one.
If this claim was not so laughable it would be sickening. I don’t know whether to laugh or get sick. Again, the verses Christians use to try to prove Jesus is God do the exact opposite.
How can anyone be so deluded? I think it is really about an inability to reason and understand what verses mean. Either they are just plain stupid or they are reading into these verses and trying to make them mean that Jesus is God.
Believe me, Tb, I do know why you are so vehemently opposed to the Triune God.
Lol! You remind me of that telling quote from Hamlet
: "The lady doth protest too much, methinks."
I have read all of Acts 2, over and over again, but I am not going to post all of it. I was asking about one specific verse that has a particular meaning in context
The context is the whole of Acts 2. You don’t see it?
What do you think I am going to find out by reading it again in the ESV that I have not already stated? It is ALL a matter of interpretation after all. You have one interpretation and I have another. I did read the ESV an di did nit see anything that would disprove what I believe.
I suggested the E.S.V. because I thought it might help you. It is a better translation than the one you use.
You say that “It is ALL a matter of interpretation”. I wonder if you believe that all interpretations are equally valid…?