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Featured Jesus' Four Failed Prophecies About Him Returning In The Lifetimes Of His Apostles

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by SeekingAllTruth, Feb 18, 2021.

  1. Trailblazer

    Trailblazer Veteran Member

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    Duane, do you really think those quotes are accurate? Do you think Baha'u'llah actually wrote those things?
     
  2. samtonga43

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    As I thought. Thank you for clearing this up..
    Well, to me he’s just a man who believes he can call himself God.
     
  3. samtonga43

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    ‘I tell you the truth,’ Jesus answered, ‘before Abraham was born, I am!’ At this, they picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus hid himself, slipping away from the temple grounds” The violent response of the Jews to Jesus’ “I AM” statement indicates they clearly understood what He was declaring—that He was the eternal God incarnate. Jesus was equating Himself with the "I AM" title God gave Himself in Exodus 3:14.
    If Jesus had merely wanted to say He existed before Abraham’s time, He would have said, “Before Abraham, I was.” The Greek words translated “was,” in the case of Abraham, and “am,” in the case of Jesus, are quite different. Abraham was “brought into being,” but Jesus existed eternally (see John 1:1)). But Jesus committed no blasphemy; He was and is God, the second Person of the Godhead, equal to the Father in every way.
    I AM the Bread of Life
    I AM the Light of the World
    I AM the Door of the Sheep
    I AM the Good Shepherd
    I AM the Resurrection and the Life
    I AM the Way, the Truth and the Life
    I AM the True Vine
    What did Jesus mean when He said 'I AM'? | GotQuestions.org
    In this case, to calm the storm. Can't you read?
    The same was in the beginning with God.
    All things were made by Him, and without Him was not anything made that was made. John 1

    For by him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things were created through him and for him. Colossians 1:16
    So… All things were made by God. No contradiction unless one is desperate to find one.
    Believe me, Tb, I do know why you are so vehemently opposed to the Triune God.
    Lol! You remind me of that telling quote from Hamlet: "The lady doth protest too much, methinks."
    The context is the whole of Acts 2. You don’t see it?
    I suggested the E.S.V. because I thought it might help you. It is a better translation than the one you use.
    You say that “It is ALL a matter of interpretation”. I wonder if you believe that all interpretations are equally valid…?
     
  4. Truthseeker9

    Truthseeker9 Well-Known Member

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    Probably, but how do I know?
    You left out that part where I said:Is that very loving to Trailblazer? My point was it might hurt her feelings to call Baha'u'llah B,Man.
     
  5. samtonga43

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    Sometimes it is more loving to 'say it as it is'. He is a man and 'B.' is a shortened version of his name.
     
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    He is exactly the type of person who WOULD say these things. They fir perfectly with his 'personality'.
     
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