Jehova's Witnesses

[YmirGF]

I have always felt that any god worth his salt does not need salespeople, no matter how well intentioned. My take on proseletizing is that it is a mode of thought based on the arrogant viewpoint that ones views are "better" than that of others, therefore there is a need to "spread the word".

In some ways... to me, at least, this marks the first stages of the "seeker". I consider these folks and people like them to be at the bottom of the spiritual food chain. In reality, I do not perceive their path as having any more enlightenment than my ashtray.

 

[michel]

I have always felt that any god worth his salt does not need salespeople, no matter how well intentioned. My take on proseletizing is that it is a mode of thought based on the arrogant viewpoint that ones views are "better" than that of others, therefore there is a need to "spread the word".

In some ways... to me, at least, this marks the first stages of the "seeker". I consider these folks and people like them to be at the bottom of the spiritual food chain. In reality, I do not perceive their path as having any more enlightenment than my ashtray.

I understand the way you feel, and I must admit that I share your thoughts in many ways. I would put it to you, though, that the Church salespeople are not half as illmeaning as those who try to sell double glazing for windows, new kichens, loans, investments, credit cards....... well, whatever.

the bottom of the spiritual food chain

Agreed, but hardly out of malice; I think they are genuine, and merely need 'guidance', unlike those who ram eternal debt down your throat.

 

[YmirGF]

Well I have no difficulty agreeing with all your points Michel.

"Martha, we got us more of them dang roofing people a comin'. Bring me my shotgun."

 

[Halcyon]

YmirGF, what do you mean by 'seeker'?

 

[YmirGF]

sorry halcyon, but my brain quails at the prospect of outlining such a primitive concept.

Forgive me if I pass.

 

[may]

Jehovah’s​

Witnesses




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Definition:​

The worldwide Christian society of people who actively bear witness regarding Jehovah God and his purposes affecting mankind. They base their beliefs solely on the Bible.




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What​

beliefs of Jehovah’s Witnesses set them apart as different from other religions?




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(1)​

Bible: Jehovah’s Witnesses believe that the entire Bible is the inspired Word of God, and instead of adhering to a creed based on human tradition, they hold to the Bible as the standard for all their beliefs.




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(2)​

God: They worship Jehovah as the only true God and freely speak to others about him and his loving purposes toward mankind. Anyone who publicly witnesses about Jehovah is usually identified as belonging to the one group—"Jehovah’s Witnesses."




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(3)​

Jesus Christ: They believe, not that Jesus Christ is part of a Trinity, but that, as the Bible says, he is the Son of God, the first of God’s creations; that he had a prehuman existence and that his life was transferred from heaven to the womb of a virgin, Mary; that his perfect human life laid down in sacrifice makes possible salvation to eternal life for those who exercise faith; that Christ is actively ruling as King, with God-given authority over all the earth since 1914.




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God’s Kingdom: They believe that God’s Kingdom is the only hope for mankind; that it is a real government; that it will soon destroy the present wicked system of things, including all human governments, and that it will produce a new system in which righteousness will prevail.




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Heavenly life: They believe that 144,000 spirit-anointed Christians will share with Christ in his heavenly Kingdom, ruling as kings with him. They do not believe that heaven is the reward for everyone who is "good."




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(6)​

The earth: They believe that God’s original purpose for the earth will be fulfilled; that the earth will be completely populated by worshipers of Jehovah and that these will be able to enjoy eternal life in human perfection; that even the dead will be raised to an opportunity to share in these blessings.




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Death: They believe that the dead are conscious of absolutely nothing; that they are experiencing neither pain nor pleasure in some spirit realm; that they do not exist except in God’s memory, so hope for their future life lies in a resurrection from the dead.




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(8)​

Last days: They believe that we are living now, since 1914, in the last days of this wicked system of things; ; that lovers of righteousness will survive into a cleansed earth.




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(9)​

Separate from the world: They earnestly endeavor to be no part of the world, as Jesus said would be true of his followers. They show genuine Christian love for their neighbors, but they do not share in the politics or the wars of any nation. They provide for the material needs of their families but shun the world’s avid pursuit of material things and personal fame and its excessive indulgence in pleasure.




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(10) Apply Bible counsel: They believe that it is important to apply the counsel of God’s Word in everyday life now—at home, in school, in business, in their congregation. Regardless of a person’s past way of life, he may become one of Jehovah’s Witnesses if he abandons practices condemned by God’s Word and applies its godly counsel. But if anyone thereafter makes a practice of adultery, fornication, homosexuality, drug abuse, drunkenness, lying, or stealing, he will be disfellowshipped from the organization

 

[Snowbear]

Besides if people knew we were coming, they'd wouldn't come to the door no?

:biglaugh:

 

[Feathers in Hair]

sorry halcyon, but my brain quails at the prospect of outlining such a primitive concept.

Forgive me if I pass.

YmirGF, I thought it a valid question. Something you happily refer to as a 'primitive concept' is apparently something that is unknown to some of us. If you can work through the brain-quailing, I would certainly like to hear the answer.