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Israel...The Troublesome Ally

Discussion in 'North American Politics' started by Revoltingest, Sep 12, 2019.

  1. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest Greased up & ready for action!
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    In the news...
    Israel accused of planting mysterious spy devices near the White House
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    The U.S. government concluded within the last two years that Israel was most likely behind the placement of cell-phone surveillance devices that were found near the White House and other sensitive locations around Washington, D.C., according to three former senior U.S. officials with knowledge of the matter.

    But unlike most other occasions when flagrant incidents of foreign spying have been discovered on American soil, the Trump administration did not rebuke the Israeli government, and there were no consequences for Israel’s behavior, one of the former officials said.
     
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  2. metis

    metis aged ecumenical anthropologist

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    Countries, including friendly countries, "spy" on each other. It's just better not to get caught. A couple of decades or so ago, we got caught "spying" on the Canadian government, and that was sorta embarrassing.
     
  3. Ouroboros

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    Why would Israel spy on us? We're they're friends! They don't trust us? ... Oh. Got it...

    And why in heavens would we spy on Canadians? That's just... wait, did they apologize for being spied on yet? Eh?
     
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    I'd say it's better to spy on this:
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    Than this:
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  5. metis

    metis aged ecumenical anthropologist

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    Not my type.
     
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    Edward Snowden comes to mind, that we were spying on our allies.
     
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    Good example.

    BTW, there are some good reasons for doing this-- just better not to get caught at it.
     
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    It is at least interesting to see the Trump Administration treat Netanyahu as if he were Putin.
     
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    Time to bring back the Cone of Silence.
     
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    If I wanted a spy I'd hire a Canadian. Michael J. Fox for instance. Now that guy could spy if he were so inclined.
     
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    They are more like dangerous friends than troublesome allies, and eventually we may need them more than they need us. When that happens we'll be the ones doing the spying, probably -- assuming that it is legal. If its illegal then of course we should not.
     
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    If anyone could shake out some secrets it would be him... (bad joke, sorry!)
     
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  13. Revoltingest

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    At his stage of Parkinsons, he's prolly dealing with bad hallucinations.
    Not what they'd want in a spy.
     
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    Trump is indeed the most unusual "anti-semite" I've ever seen.
     
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    Most likely we have twice the surveillance tools around them as they do us so who can complain?
     
  16. Revoltingest

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    I was being diplomatic with understatement.
     
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    We may complain about what we find.
    They may complain about what they find.
     
  18. Nowhere Man

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    Probably because the device had, "Made in China stamped on it and has a sticker that reads, "As seen on TV" logo.
     
  19. Wu Wei

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    Israel bugs the White House.... that's nothing....look into "USS Liberty incident"...they pretty much got away with it...no one else would have
     
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    I remember it.
     
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