Gharib
I want Khilafah back
no, that inaccurate information. you have been illinformed.
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Islam in the Tanakh and the Bible
- Thread starter Fatihah
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no, that inaccurate information. you have been illinformed.
Green Gaia
Veteran Member
Now you are not being honest because that is exactly what happened.
Gharib
I want Khilafah back
so you are backing out huh?
So... they believe in God, believe in the truth of the Quran, and believe that Muhammad was the messenger of God.
I'm no theologian, but I think there's a term for these kinds of people: Muslim.
But it wasn't.
Well, if we're playing semantic games, then we can just say that Islam is really just Hinduism.
The real name of Hinduism is "Sanātana Dharma", which means "the eternal law" in Sanskrit. If there was some original religion that Adam practiced, don't you think "the eternal law" is as good a term for it as "submission"?
Ta-da: Hinduism was the first religion.
Gharib
I want Khilafah back
why because the quran is similar to the bible and torah?
then i say it isn't because the quran is from god just as it says so. you told me a million times not to reffer to the quran and you yourself just did.
YmirGF
Bodhisattva in Recovery
Perhaps in the bizarre rational of Eselam, but I don't see how this is even related to what we are talking about. I know thinking is not one of your stronger suits, but at least try to understand what is being said to you before you post your response.
Green Gaia
Veteran Member
No, I didn't. You made the claim about Adam being a Muslim, yet you've given no historical evidence of this.
What the Qur'an, Bible and Torah say really doesn't matter much to me.
Gharib
I want Khilafah back
ok here's the one of the people who spoke;
1) Dr. T. V. N. Persaud is Professor of Anatomy, Professor of Pediatrics and Child Health, and Professor of Obstetrics, Gynecology, and Reproductive Sciences at the University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada. There, he was the Chairman of the Department of Anatomy for 16 years. He is well-known in his field. He is the author or editor of 22 textbooks and has published over 181 scientific papers. In 1991, he received the most distinguished award presented in the field of anatomy in Canada, the J.C.B. Grant Award from the Canadian Association of Anatomists. When he was asked about the scientific miracles in the Quran which he has researched, he stated the following:
“The way it was explained to me is that Muhammad was a very ordinary man. He could not read, didn’t know [how] to write. In fact, he was an illiterate. And we’re talking about twelve [actually about fourteen] hundred years ago. You have someone illiterate making profound pronouncements and statements and that are amazingly accurate about scientific nature. And I personally can’t see how this could be a mere chance. There are too many accuracies and, like Dr. Moore, I have no difficulty in my mind that this is a divine inspiration or revelation which led him to these statements.”
1) Dr. T. V. N. Persaud is Professor of Anatomy, Professor of Pediatrics and Child Health, and Professor of Obstetrics, Gynecology, and Reproductive Sciences at the University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada. There, he was the Chairman of the Department of Anatomy for 16 years. He is well-known in his field. He is the author or editor of 22 textbooks and has published over 181 scientific papers. In 1991, he received the most distinguished award presented in the field of anatomy in Canada, the J.C.B. Grant Award from the Canadian Association of Anatomists. When he was asked about the scientific miracles in the Quran which he has researched, he stated the following:
“The way it was explained to me is that Muhammad was a very ordinary man. He could not read, didn’t know [how] to write. In fact, he was an illiterate. And we’re talking about twelve [actually about fourteen] hundred years ago. You have someone illiterate making profound pronouncements and statements and that are amazingly accurate about scientific nature. And I personally can’t see how this could be a mere chance. There are too many accuracies and, like Dr. Moore, I have no difficulty in my mind that this is a divine inspiration or revelation which led him to these statements.”
Green Gaia
Veteran Member
eselam, if you want to believe that Islam is the oldest religion, fine. Just be honest enough to admit that this belief is taken on faith and is not supported by real factual, historical evidence.
YmirGF
Bodhisattva in Recovery
Fanatical Muslims, perhaps.
kai
ragamuffin
Green Gaia
Veteran Member
It ain't good enough. It's irrelevant as is not historical evidence.
Green Gaia
Veteran Member
Still not historical evidence.
Gharib
I want Khilafah back
well, the quran is part of history, so if the quran is verified as being true, then that equals true history. how bout that
Green Gaia
Veteran Member
Nope. The Qur'an is a religious book which must be taken on faith, not a history book.
Gharib
I want Khilafah back
so then if a faith book is proven right, that means the faith is also right?
Green Gaia
Veteran Member
Proven right on what? And how would you go about proving such a thing?
Again, if you want to believe that Islam is the oldest religion, fine. Just be honest enough to admit that this belief is taken on faith and is not supported by real factual, historical evidence.