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Featured Is Yahweh A Liar? Yes, He Is. I Can Prove It.

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by SeekingAllTruth, Mar 9, 2021.

  1. Clara Tea

    Clara Tea Well-Known Member

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    Presumptions: God is perfect, bible is word of God given to psychics by divine power, but the bible was rewritten by kings and popes. So, the current bible is wrong.
     
  2. We Never Know

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    In harsh and arid seasons and droughts the Blue Nile dries out completely. The flow of the Blue Nile varies considerably over its yearly cycle and is the main contribution to the large natural variation of the Nile flow.
     
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    I guess you would know. :D
     
  4. SeekingAllTruth

    SeekingAllTruth Well-Known Member

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  5. SeekingAllTruth

    SeekingAllTruth Well-Known Member

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    Then it's not a judgment, is it. It's God recognizing a natural phenomenon.
     
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    SeekingAllTruth Well-Known Member

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    I couldn't agree more, Clara. Who knows how the Bible originally read? All we have to go on is what the current translations say.
     
  7. SeekingAllTruth

    SeekingAllTruth Well-Known Member

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    Unfortunately we find no such thing in the Bible. Oh well....
     
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  8. SeekingAllTruth

    SeekingAllTruth Well-Known Member

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    Unfortunately, other parts of the Nile prophecy say Egypt will be desolate and its people will be scattered across the earth.

    Never happened.
     
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    It demonstrates quite a bit of enlightenment on your part. I'm rather pleased. :)
     
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  10. Aupmanyav

    Aupmanyav Be your own guru

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    @SeekingAllTruth , If the river has all dried up, why would anyone cast hooks in the sand? A contradiction there.
     
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    SeekingAllTruth Well-Known Member

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    Thought-provoking comment.
     
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  12. Trailblazer

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    Well, I am not familiar with that prophecy, maybe you can share it.
    Remember, I am not that familiar with the Bible as you are. ;)
     
  13. SeekingAllTruth

    SeekingAllTruth Well-Known Member

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    I think it's just flowery language typical of sacred writings. Don't look for any common sense in it, just poetry.
     
  14. Trailblazer

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    No, it is just God trying to test people, He is good at that. ;)
    And the sheep go one way, the goats another... gotta love that Jesus! :)
     
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  15. Aupmanyav

    Aupmanyav Be your own guru

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    Would not his mother will want him to be buried? I so not think that there was any law which decreed that people who die by crucifiction should not be touched. BTW, what was Joseph doing all this time? Was he not Jesus' step-father? Did he not have any responsibility towards Jesus?
    If it is a normal weather cycle then why should Yahweh boast about it as SeekingAllTruth said?
     
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    SeekingAllTruth Well-Known Member

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    Certainly. Here's the full prophecy:

    In the tenth year, in the tenth month, in the twelfth day of the month, the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, Son of man, set thy face against Pharaoh king of Egypt, and prophesy against him, and against all Egypt: Speak, and say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against thee, Pharaoh king of Egypt, the great dragon that lieth in the midst of his rivers, which hath said, My river is mine own, and I have made it for myself. But I will put hooks in thy jaws, and I will cause the fish of thy rivers to stick unto thy scales, and I will bring thee up out of the midst of thy rivers, and all the fish of thy rivers shall stick unto thy scales. And I will leave thee thrown into the wilderness, thee and all the fish of thy rivers: thou shalt fall upon the open fields; thou shalt not be brought together, nor gathered: I have given thee for meat to the beasts of the field and to the fowls of the heaven. Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will bring a sword upon thee, and cut off man and beast out of thee. And the land of Egypt shall be desolate and waste; and they shall know that I am the LORD: because he hath said, The river is mine, and I have made it. Behold, therefore I am against thee, and against thy rivers, and I will make the land of Egypt utterly waste and desolate, from the tower of Syene even unto the border of Ethiopia. No foot of man shall pass through it, nor foot of beast shall pass through it, neither shall it be inhabited forty years. And I will make the land of Egypt desolate in the midst of the countries that are desolate, and her cities among the cities that are laid waste shall be desolate forty years: and I will scatter the Egyptians among the nations, and will disperse them through the countries. Yet thus saith the Lord GOD; At the end of forty years will I gather the Egyptians from the people whither they were scattered: And I will bring again the captivity of Egypt, and will cause them to return into the land of Pathros, into the land of their habitation; and they shall be there a base kingdom. It shall be the basest of the kingdoms; neither shall it exalt itself any more above the nations: for I will diminish them, that they shall no more rule over the nations.

    God sets out a checklist of specific events that will occur:
    1. Egypt and everything from the tower of Syene to Ethiopia will be desolate and waste
    2. God will own the Nile
    3. No humans will walk through Egypt
    4. No animals will walk through Egypt
    5. Nobody will live in Egypt for 40 years
    6. Egyptians will leave Egypt and be scattered among other nations
    7. After 40 years of scattering, Egypt will be repopulated by the scattered Egyptians
    8. Egypt will be a weak kingdom, and will never control "the nations"

    Never happened.
     
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  17. SeekingAllTruth

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    Test people's patience, you mean?:confused:
     
  18. Subduction Zone

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    He was crucified by the Romans. Part of the punishment was leaving the bodies up there as an object lesson to others. It was a very gruesome and cruel world back then.
     
  19. Trailblazer

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    Of course it could have a meaning other than what you ascribed to it, but I'll leave this one to the Christians and Jews as it's their scripture and I do not have the context as they do.... I know my own limits. :rolleyes:
     
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  20. Trailblazer

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    He is good at that too....remember Job? ;)
     
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