Jacob Samuelson
Active Member
I'm going to use this forum as the start of the debate.
This forum has potentially endless sides and points of views to where its more like a circle of loud noise and repeated whirlpool of questioning and answering. Is anyone actually getting closer to their god(s) through this? I wonder how many people are only on here trying to tirelessly convert someone else's point of view to their own or if they are sincerely interested in learning what others believe. By the way, before I get unposted, this is not just a forum issue, it's a world issue. The latter is so difficult, because if I wanted to know what any faith believes, I must encounter a massive wall of the former's varying opinions, factional differences, and even entirely controversial perspectives. For example, trying to understand the Muslims. Although their entire system of belief is supposedly built on unity through prayer and one Allah, I actually consider them even more complex and diverse than the Christians and their many churches. The same goes for every member of religious parties I've encountered. No answer I receive from any given member or follower would be the same. Sure there are core beliefs and important figures, the textual stuff, but the story, or contextual stuff, is never the same.
For me, it has come to the point that the lines of most beliefs are entirely intertwined with popular opinion and regional speculation, that political and traditional forces are the only remaining shell of religion and theology, bringing the very rational parts of human logic to come to the conclusion that religion is man's and most certainly not God's.
However, what is God's? Perhaps simply an experimentation of divine power or an intensely well prepared simulation for ethical examination. Perhaps a sandbox for omnipotent amusement or a seasonal purging of failed creation. Perhaps nothing at all. Just a fictitious humanistic ploy to render subject gullible ignoramuses to their knees through fear, love, or hope, making a way for submissive yet productive societies.
Lets start from the latter. We have learned through the manipulation of ecclesiastical power, one's reliance to religion has proved to dim physical understanding during the Dark Ages and, in contrast, its rejection lead to scientific advances and industry of the Renaissance and modern medicine.
I admit that some of the greatest minds were protestant and atheist, as they were revolutionists against a ruthless regime of pious subjugation and born from the primal simplicity of the Scientific Method rather from tattered pages of canonized laws and fairy tales.
Here, it is easy to relate to the atheist's perspective in matters of the unholy and earthly divinity in secular religion, yet there is always still that proverbial elephant in the room. God. I would be among those that whole-heartedly believe that there is a God. For me, It is too much of a paradox that something or someone doesn't exist in an infinitesimal universe. Even as the innate human yearning for a creator is found in a child to their parent is not strictly for survival, but for connection. Not just for sustenance but for substance.
No matter your upbringing, you were created in a machine that is your mother, built from code that is your father. There is no escaping that, regardless if science or nature allows manipulation or duplication of that code. Being a creation suggests there is a creator(s). In this case, your parents. A Code that has been passed down generationally from an unknown source: God, aliens, or randomized frequencies of celestial matter (remember in an infinitesimal there are infinitesimal possibilities.) In the end, the only real common denominator is your existence. The scientific method suggests that man's lineage of genetic material requires a male and a female and has so since any known existence. Whether man is an infinite age (which disagrees with modern understanding of planetary creation) or there was in fact an absolute designed Beginning of this genetic process by celestial or random intelligence matters little in the end.
In the end, there is only choice. Increments of varying decisions that build up your existence. You are gods because you are creators of this choice. You might not be able to pass or create genetic code but you still are capable of passing down information that can eventually create beliefs and choices of generations which is a function of God. Just think about it, theoretically if you didn't exist, Nothing would. The same is what is said of God. Ergo you are God.
I would like to conclude my small point on this giant circle of opinions that God is very real. He (I use "He" with the context that "He" is a universal pronoun for mankind not for masculine singular.) is a construct of reality that is existence. He is a singular person just as you are singular person. There is only one God just as you are only one being. I'm sure there was an ultimate beginning of everything because of the scientific processes that had needed to occur for my existence to happen, but I am also sure that the discovery of this Eternal being correlates with the discovery of our being. Just as our ancestral bond gives us our basic instincts and morals, God is found through the lessons of our past assembled and arranged in us. God is only a mystery because of how mysterious our existence is. I suggest there is a need for understanding our existence, that is why science was implemented. Therefore, there is a need for God. Just as there is a need for You.
This forum has potentially endless sides and points of views to where its more like a circle of loud noise and repeated whirlpool of questioning and answering. Is anyone actually getting closer to their god(s) through this? I wonder how many people are only on here trying to tirelessly convert someone else's point of view to their own or if they are sincerely interested in learning what others believe. By the way, before I get unposted, this is not just a forum issue, it's a world issue. The latter is so difficult, because if I wanted to know what any faith believes, I must encounter a massive wall of the former's varying opinions, factional differences, and even entirely controversial perspectives. For example, trying to understand the Muslims. Although their entire system of belief is supposedly built on unity through prayer and one Allah, I actually consider them even more complex and diverse than the Christians and their many churches. The same goes for every member of religious parties I've encountered. No answer I receive from any given member or follower would be the same. Sure there are core beliefs and important figures, the textual stuff, but the story, or contextual stuff, is never the same.
For me, it has come to the point that the lines of most beliefs are entirely intertwined with popular opinion and regional speculation, that political and traditional forces are the only remaining shell of religion and theology, bringing the very rational parts of human logic to come to the conclusion that religion is man's and most certainly not God's.
However, what is God's? Perhaps simply an experimentation of divine power or an intensely well prepared simulation for ethical examination. Perhaps a sandbox for omnipotent amusement or a seasonal purging of failed creation. Perhaps nothing at all. Just a fictitious humanistic ploy to render subject gullible ignoramuses to their knees through fear, love, or hope, making a way for submissive yet productive societies.
Lets start from the latter. We have learned through the manipulation of ecclesiastical power, one's reliance to religion has proved to dim physical understanding during the Dark Ages and, in contrast, its rejection lead to scientific advances and industry of the Renaissance and modern medicine.
I admit that some of the greatest minds were protestant and atheist, as they were revolutionists against a ruthless regime of pious subjugation and born from the primal simplicity of the Scientific Method rather from tattered pages of canonized laws and fairy tales.
Here, it is easy to relate to the atheist's perspective in matters of the unholy and earthly divinity in secular religion, yet there is always still that proverbial elephant in the room. God. I would be among those that whole-heartedly believe that there is a God. For me, It is too much of a paradox that something or someone doesn't exist in an infinitesimal universe. Even as the innate human yearning for a creator is found in a child to their parent is not strictly for survival, but for connection. Not just for sustenance but for substance.
No matter your upbringing, you were created in a machine that is your mother, built from code that is your father. There is no escaping that, regardless if science or nature allows manipulation or duplication of that code. Being a creation suggests there is a creator(s). In this case, your parents. A Code that has been passed down generationally from an unknown source: God, aliens, or randomized frequencies of celestial matter (remember in an infinitesimal there are infinitesimal possibilities.) In the end, the only real common denominator is your existence. The scientific method suggests that man's lineage of genetic material requires a male and a female and has so since any known existence. Whether man is an infinite age (which disagrees with modern understanding of planetary creation) or there was in fact an absolute designed Beginning of this genetic process by celestial or random intelligence matters little in the end.
In the end, there is only choice. Increments of varying decisions that build up your existence. You are gods because you are creators of this choice. You might not be able to pass or create genetic code but you still are capable of passing down information that can eventually create beliefs and choices of generations which is a function of God. Just think about it, theoretically if you didn't exist, Nothing would. The same is what is said of God. Ergo you are God.
I would like to conclude my small point on this giant circle of opinions that God is very real. He (I use "He" with the context that "He" is a universal pronoun for mankind not for masculine singular.) is a construct of reality that is existence. He is a singular person just as you are singular person. There is only one God just as you are only one being. I'm sure there was an ultimate beginning of everything because of the scientific processes that had needed to occur for my existence to happen, but I am also sure that the discovery of this Eternal being correlates with the discovery of our being. Just as our ancestral bond gives us our basic instincts and morals, God is found through the lessons of our past assembled and arranged in us. God is only a mystery because of how mysterious our existence is. I suggest there is a need for understanding our existence, that is why science was implemented. Therefore, there is a need for God. Just as there is a need for You.
