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Featured Is the universe infinite or finite?

Discussion in 'Science and Religion' started by firedragon, May 12, 2021.

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  1. ben d

    ben d Dhyani

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    You want to be provided with reasons, you want explanations about religious practice, in short it appears that it is not what you can do for the universe, but what the universe can do for you,

    The universe is God, and you study only 5%

    You want to know more, you work for it, it is not about belief, it is about understanding what and who you are in the universe.

    Knock knock!.
     
  2. mikkel_the_dane

    mikkel_the_dane Shadow Wolf's Aspie sibling

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    Stop claiming you have power over other people for what is subjective.
     
  3. ben d

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    No, it is not that simple. Why do some like power? Because there are multitudes of sheep ready to believe if the religious or scientific idea is marketed properly.
     
  4. ben d

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    I beg your pardon., what power are you talking about?
     
  5. mikkel_the_dane

    mikkel_the_dane Shadow Wolf's Aspie sibling

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    Oh, I am a sheep. Okay! Now consider if you are in violations of the rules here in RF.
     
  6. mikkel_the_dane

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    The power you hold about judging other people to be sheep.
     
  7. ben d

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    Wow, you really have some complex, I have not implied anything about you in our exchange, an exchange you began btw, and all I've done to respond to your points, it was never about you. Violations of the rules my a.... :)
     
  8. ben d

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    Trust me, I was not judging you, I made a statement which I understand to be a fair comment between the use of power and the sheep-like nature of the masses to believe. You may have judged yourself as a sheep, but I certainly didn't.
     
  9. lewisnotmiller

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    1. Atheists can be religious.
    2. Theists can be irreligious.
    3. If you believe you can judge someone as more or less suited to science by the mere fact of their theism/atheism, I'd suggest you're mistaken.
     
  10. ratiocinator

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    You're still not giving me any reason to accept your beliefs, just making rather banal claims. In what sense is the universe 'God' and why would you claim that I only study it 5%? If you're talking about science, it studies dark matter and dark energy too, so the claim is false. You can't, as just one person, even study all of the 5%.
     
  11. ben d

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    I understand the universe to be infinite, nothing does not exist, let's get back to the OP.
     
  12. lewisnotmiller

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    Okay then...
    How do you reconcile religious beliefs with the concept of a truly infinite universe?
     
  13. ben d

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    Religion proper is not about belief, the word religion implies rebond, similar to the word yoga, union, reunion, or the word Islam. submit. Religion is about becoming one with the oneness of the universe aka God. The concept God is meant to represent all that is, like the concept of Brahman. Nothing exists except for God. You can spend a lifetime studying some aspect of God, such as physical science, that's your choice. Unfortunately this forum is Science and Religion, so it crates some differences of opinion.
     
  14. ben d

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    The infinite universe is God!
     
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    How do you know?
    True but irrelevant.
     
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    I still see no reason at all to take these bold assertions seriously.
     
  17. ben d

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    Because nothing does not exist, the universe fills infinity.

    Oh no, not the universe without edges, please God give me a break.
     
  18. ben d

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    That's ok, you're forgiven.
     
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    95%....Is what we don't see...nearly invisible...with any lenses...no matter how large the lenses,

    or the galaxies !

    I see a light beyond the light,
    lighting Brahman pathes towards Heaven,
    and another light beyond Nirvana,
    casting shadows on the Sun.
    In those shadows will be your dreams,
    of your spirit's ultimate destiny.
     
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  20. ratiocinator

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    Why do you think there is an infinity (of what!?) to fill?
    It's perfectly self-consistent and consistent with what we know of space-time. You claim to know more than science, yet you don't seem to have got past nineteenth century physics....
     
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