Is the recent Trump impeachment the most politically motivated ever?

[shmogie]

shmogie, I have a question.

You are strongly of the opinion that the articles of impeachment must be statutory crimes. However, how would you characterize the body of legal scholarship on this issue? Do you assert that your view is the predominant view among constitutional law experts, or do you acknowledge it is a minority view among the experts (notwithstanding, that you maintain it is the correct view)?

I am not trying to imply that if most legal experts disagree with you, that means your view is wrong. I am just curious.

Did you watch Professor Dershowitz's presentation at the senate trial last night?

Hr made a very powerful history of impeachment going back to English common law, and why the Founders demanded statutory crimes for impeachment. He also explained in great detail why some modern scholars get it wrong.

I, as can anyone, can read the Constitution. It is so clear, that it cannot be misunderstood. "Treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors".

I have no idea if my view is a minority view with legal scholars, that is irrelevant to me.

History is replete with a plethora of people who were in the minority, but were ultimately right.

 

[Mr Spinkles]

Did you watch Professor Dershowitz's presentation at the senate trial last night?

No, I have not yet. I plan to when I have time.

I have no idea if my view is a minority view with legal scholars, that is irrelevant to me.

Thank you for answering the question.

 

[shmogie]

No, I have not yet. I plan to when I have time.

Thank you for answering the question.

Be sure and see what Dershowitz had to say, he did a superb job of making the issue clear.,

 

[Lyndon]

You mean Dershowitz the child molester, yeah hard to take him seriously

 

[sooda]

You mean Dershowitz the child molester, yeah hard to take him seriously

Dershowitz is in denial about Trump's history as a bottom feeder.

 

[Lyndon]

They both have a history of child molestation with Epstein.

 

[shmogie]

You mean Dershowitz the child molester, yeah hard to take him seriously

Really? When was he convicted, and where did he serve his term?

Typical lefty boorish behavior, attack personally when you are intellectually unable to mount a counter argument.

Pitiful.

 

[Lyndon]

Do you have a place in your heart for accused child molesters, not me

 

[tytlyf]

Really? When was he convicted, and where did he serve his term?

How about Gym Jordan, isn't he your hero? He likes fiddling with kids too

 

[Mr Spinkles]

How about Gym Jordan, isn't he your hero? He likes fiddling with kids too

tytlyf I often appreciate your views but I don’t think that’s what Jordan was accused of. And in fairness this is pretty off topic ... Jordan could be a terrible person and that wouldn’t impact whether Dershowitz is correct or not in his arguments.

 

[metis]

To Trump defenders:

If Trump is so supposedly innocent, then why is it that the Pubs don't want any witnesses, depositions, or documents from those who were there and would know what Trump did or didn't do? IOW, what are you afraid of? If you were innocent, wouldn't you want these to come out to show that you're innocent?

Frankly, I tend to think that most Trump supporters actually know he's basically guilty, but they simply don't care. "Tribal" politics at its worse.

 

[ecco]

And you're right, the list of infractions for which President Trump is being accused is noticeably absent from a formal standpoint.

Get a BJ from an intern: Impeach him.
Withhold Congressionally authorized money to a foreign government to extort an investigation into a political rival: Nothing to see here folks.

The Repubs are no different from the old white guys who wrote the Ten Commandments and cleverly omitted: Thou Shalt not be a Hypocrite.

 

[ecco]

Allegations and testimony are not real evidence.

YOU ARE RIGHT! We should eliminate testimony from all trials.

We DEFINITELY don't want to hear the testimony of John Bolton.

 

[sooda]

Really? When was he convicted, and where did he serve his term?

Typical lefty boorish behavior, attack personally when you are intellectually unable to mount a counter argument.

Pitiful.

That's what Trump does when he attacks women and calls them names.

 

[Twilight Hue]

YOU ARE RIGHT! We should eliminate testimony from all trials.

We DEFINITELY don't want to hear the testimony of John Bolton.

No.

It's. ..

Testimony without evidence to back up that testimony. Bad




Testimony with evidence. Good.

Just to make it clear.

 

[tytlyf]

No.

It's. ..

Testimony without evidence to back up that testimony. Bad




Testimony with evidence. Good.

Just to make it clear.

So you ASSume Bolton has no evidence? How convenient for you

 

[shmogie]

That's what Trump does when he attacks women and calls them names.

Interesting profile pic. You look way different from what I imagined.

 

[ecco]

Dershowitz was hooked up big time with Epstein.

I'm quite certain that someone of Epstein's character and mentality made sure that stuff that happened in his house's bedrooms was videotaped. I keep hoping that somehow the tapes will be released.

But, the possibility of any release probably died with him.

 

[ecco]

Clinton was impeached for perjury and obstruction of justice.

Trump will never get in trouble for perjury (lying to Congress) because he will never take an oath to tell the truth.

 

[ecco]

I don't think the Democrats truly believe they're going to actually remove Trump from office, but there may still be a method to their madness. Perhaps they'll retake control of the Senate, or maybe they believe the impeachment process will convince enough swing voters to not vote for Trump in November.

They are calling attention to the utter corruptness and deceitfulness of Trump. The primary audience, as you suggested, is the swing voter. If they can also show the corruptness of the Sheeple Republicans, the may retake the Senate.

Of course, one needs to consider that Romney may run for the nomination, in which case all bets are off.