firedragon
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It's only superficial, vague, general because you don't know the details of Baha'u'llah's writings, which you have to investigate for yourself.
How do you know if a person has or has not Bahaullah's writings?
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It's only superficial, vague, general because you don't know the details of Baha'u'llah's writings, which you have to investigate for yourself.
That is why. You have answered your own question - in advance, no less.The major difference is that this is a divine model.
So why do you find Abrahamic monotheism unsuitable?
We have enough of Divine Education through Hinduism and Buddha. No one can rovide any better than that.All of the revelations that have appeared in this world was about love and divine education.
You ether want the divine education or you don't.
Yeah, what is yours is yours. What is ours is ours. I reply to Bahais only when they something about Hinduism or Krishna. Otherwise I would not bother about it.
We do not make a claim to anyone as Bahais do. Such claims are the problems. That is why Jews, Zoroastrians, Christians, Muslims (Sunni and Shia both), Jains, Buddhists, Sikhs, Ahmadiyyas and some Bahais too, live peacefully in India. This is because our Gods and Goddesses gave us a message for all times, the message of peace, brotherhood and co-existence, and not the message of ego.
We have enough of Divine Education through Hinduism and Buddha. No one can provide any better than that.
I didn't mention fanaticism.In the future it will be a whole different civilization. There will be no fanaticism in the baha'i faith.
"What is your criteria which one is revelation and which one is not? What is the colour you are painting everything with?"This is good for a sermon brother. I dont mean this in a disrespectful way but your statements are so superficial, vague, general and preaching.
You said all the revelations that have appeared, what do you mean? All the revelations ever appeared, like the Vedas, Smritis, book of the dead, Upanishads, Tipitaka, OT, NT, Quran, Book of levi, dasathir, Kithab al akdas, all the ahadith, the so called suhufi ibrahima, apocrypha, epistle of barnabas, gospel of barnabas, epistle of clement, etc etc etc? All the books ever seen in this world? What is your criteria which one is revelation and which one is not? What is the colour you are painting everything with?
So, you do make exclusive claims concerning 'enough Divine Education through Hinduism and Buddha, and of course 'No one can provide any better than that.'
We have enough of Divine Education through Hinduism and Buddha. No one can rovide any better than that.
It is good that you are not in the position of imposing anything on other people otherwise you wanted the whole world to be ruled by a Bahai government.
As one who practiced psychiatry for a few years I came to appreciate who adverse childhood experiences could have a profound effect for better or worse.
So merely disagreeing on the philosophy is seeing and claiming that the Baha'i faith is evil? That's how you see people who disagree? Hindus don't even believe in evil as a concept, unlike the Abrahamic faiths, so it's really quite the illogical jump, don't you think?After a couple of years of chatting here, that is all some choose to see.
All the best.
Regards Tony
What is "Divine Education"? Is it "Education of the Divine", "Education about the Divine" or "Independent investigation"?
In the Baha'i Faith it is."Education about the Divine" and "Independent investigation"
I think with a little bit of true independent investigation you would quickly find these are all very old ideas put forth by others or already being attempted. There are no new social teachings in Baha'i theology. There are regressive ideas such as no women allowed in the highest positions of power, lack of allowing gays to become members, women praying in a certain way when on their periods, wearing ones hair in a certain way, dressing in certain ways, etc. Education available to all, global peace, equal rights, fair distribution of wealth are all humanist and other religion's goals. Baha'i is probably the most divisive of all religions as it is the most openly insulting of all other belief systems. I think if you were to read some history and current events other than Baha'i texts you yourself would be able to see this for yourself.It's the social teachings that changes from age to age. Things like calling for unity on a planetary level, letting us know that human beings are an ever advancing civilization, proclaiming that science and spirituality are in harmony, thing like those are messages that we need for this age.
A true prophet cannot call one who gave the ultimate knowledge of God, a liar. Christ never claimed to be a prophet, He claimed to be the Messiah, the Son of God, God. Everything He and His Apostles taught is right for all time, pertinent for all time, all one needs to know to be right with God. No further Revelation is required.God alone is absolute truth, it's just that the teachings of God change from age to age according to the capacity of the people.
We their is a The criteria for a true Messenger of God:
What do they actually teach? Do they practice what they teach? What prophecies do they fulfill from the scriptures of old?
Another way you know a true Manifestation is that thay come with a new independent revelation and a new calendar, they speak of another that is going to come after them or a return, and if the one who is claiming to be a Prophet still working from an old revelation then they're not a true Manifestation. Another thing to ask is whether ther teachings is mainly based on hate, if they are than they're not a true Messenger.
Some people think that it's always Messengers, that come very often, but the fact is the Messengers are rare individuals that appears around about every 1000 years and that they're always from the east.
I would like to use the analogy of a mature and knowledgeable child and an actual educated adult teacher. While the mature and knowledgeable child may have a big impact on the other children and they feel like they want to follow him that child will still be limited in what he can do because he's still a child and he's not actually been educated. But the actual adult teacher actually have the education to teach the children. So the educated adult teacher will have a far more more impact than the mature and knowledgeable child.
Btw, when you copy and paste the same answers to different posters, it makes the religion look like a cult. The same exact reponses repeated over and over looks like brainwashing to anyone outside of those cults.
Divine entities can be useful if one takes the proper care, namely not taking them too seriously.
The Abrahamics, most notably Islaam, go out of their way to take them too seriously.
We have enough of Divine Education through Hinduism and Buddha. No one can rovide any better than that.
But how will it be a different civilisation?
"What is your criteria which one is revelation and which one is not? What is the colour you are painting everything with?"
It is a good question and pertinent question. Our friend @od19g6 , should concentrate on mentioning the criteria as requested by our friend @firedragon , please.
Did he mention it? I might have missed it,
Kindly give me the post number, please.
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