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viole

Ontological Naturalist
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Perhaps healthy minds, because that has different paradigms. But healthy souls? No, in my opinion. It intoxicates sexual impatience and takes away honor of the nature required to keep the link I talked about between the three types of love.
Healthy souls which do not correspond to a healthy mind? How does that work? Is the mind so much different from the soul, so that one can be healthy while the other might not be?
Again, I have to use logic here. Why is p-graphy so successful? And such since it has been invented?

And what do you mean with "it intoxicates sexual impatience"? What intoxication are you talking about? What do you mean by that?

Ciao

- viole
 

Link

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Healthy souls which do not correspond to a healthy mind? How does that work? Is the mind so much different from the soul, so that one can be healthy while the other might not be?
Again, I have to use logic here. Why is p-graphy so successful? And such since it has been invented?

And what do you mean with "it intoxicates sexual impatience"? What intoxication are you talking about? What do you mean by that?

Ciao

- viole

There is a relationship, but sometimes a healthy soul is in some much worry and grief about humanity, like Jacob (a), that his mind is not in a healthy state by paradigms of what people consider it to be health. This is because happiness is a measurement while Jacob (a) was in intense sorrow and that is due to knowledge God gave him and made him superior to the worlds and deprive humanity of that knowledge.

Sometimes, knowing truth, is not easy on the mind, but it's healthy for the soul.

Sometimes apathy and hardness of the heart is better on the mind, then caring and stressing out for your fellow humans and the oppressed.

The soul is at peace in sorrow sometimes given the circumstances the world is in.

Apathy means less stress, but if you care for humanity, and believe in warnings of Quran, while it will heighten the soul, it might strain the mind.
 

Link

Veteran Member
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1927????

Really?

Do you think we may have learned a bit since then? And, maybe, that we have learned not to be so sexually stilted?

Time doesn't have anything to with this. Ancients often practiced similar rituals, had sex in a public view and audience.

Like I said, this is part of the corrupting ways of the ancient order which has been the enemy of all anointed kings by God.
 

Polymath257

Think & Care
Staff member
Premium Member
Time doesn't have anything to with this. Ancients often practiced similar rituals, had sex in a public view and audience.

Like I said, this is part of the corrupting ways of the ancient order which has been the enemy of all anointed kings by God.

I disagree. There has been a LOT of research on human sexuality that has happened since that time. To ignore that ensures made decision making in this subject.

I don't think there have been *any* 'appointed kings by God'. since I consider 'God' to be a myth used to support the power of kings.
 

Link

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I disagree. There has been a LOT of research on human sexuality that has happened since that time. To ignore that ensures made decision making in this subject.

I don't think there have been *any* 'appointed kings by God'. since I consider 'God' to be a myth used to support the power of kings.

I know you do. But I've done research and believe it's harmful individually (on the person) + holistic implications on society are harmful.
 

firedragon

Veteran Member
It is normal to want to watch p-graphy.
However, it is not normal to watch p-graphy.
The unrealized desire to watch semi-naked ladies is the growing mental pain.
So, get to love your pain and dissatisfaction. Life after the Original Sin is like one huge pain.


The medicine, the doctors tell, that the healthy sexual act produces the good chemical pattern in the brain. However, the watching p-phy produces the poison in the brain.

About another theme:

It is normal to fear death, even with terrible fear (like Jesus Christ did before Crucifixion). But it is not normal to die: not normal to die physically, and not normal to die mentally.

About another theme:
"The luck is one of the God's names. Because to be lucky is good. And all good notions are the God's names: Love, Justice, Way, Truth, Police, etc. "

I dont know what kind of pornography has semi naked ladies. Semi naked ladies or/and men are found right outside.

Anyway, if you are a Christian, its a sin. In my opinion, according to the Biblical view.
 

Link

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Premium Member
By the way, I believe this kind of stuff leads to human trafficking. Human trafficking has been always part of human society, but it's increased and increased as in including child type when this watching rituals increase.
 

Link

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Hijaab in both it's aspects (not here to debate Hijaab), but both places (chapters) it's mentioned, there is contrast done to human trafficking.

Shades of evil lead to utmost evil.
 

TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
I've seen Iranian medical studies showing harms of masturbation in society and upon individuals who do them. I think west don't trust Russia or Iran for these type of studies.

Indeed, we do not trust studies coming from obvious biased setting where the results tend to play exactly into the playbook of the forces that be.

If you can show me a proper peer reviewed scientific study which can and has been replicated by others with consistent results, I'ld be interested.

But I don't expect that to happen.
 

Link

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Premium Member
Indeed, we do not trust studies coming from obvious biased setting where the results tend to play exactly into the playbook of the forces that be.

If you can show me a proper peer reviewed scientific study which can and has been replicated by others with consistent results, I'ld be interested.

But I don't expect that to happen.

I don't expect your society to be objective either because to me they are ruled by Iblis and Gog (his human companion) and Magog (followers of Gog from sorcerers and Jinn worshipers).
 

TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
I know you do. But I've done research and believe it's harmful individually (on the person) + holistic implications on society are harmful.
Whenever you can support your beliefs with actual evidence, I'll listen.

Until then, I'll simply dismiss without evidence whatever you assert without evidence.
 

TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
I don't expect your society to be objective either because

That's the fun part. You don't need to trust them.
The scientific method, when properly followed, doesn't require mere "trust" or "belief".

It offers transparency and intellectual honesty instead


to me they are ruled by Iblis and Gog (his human companion) and Magog (followers of Gog from sorcerers and Jinn worshipers).

At least my skepticism doesn't involve any magical supernatural superstition.
 

Link

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Until then, I'll simply dismiss without evidence whatever you assert without evidence.

You also dismiss when evidence/proofs/insights provided, and so you are a confused state, doubt loses meaning when you doubt what should not be doubted.

First rule of doubt, know when to stop doubting.
 

Link

Veteran Member
Premium Member
That's the fun part. You don't need to trust them.
The scientific method, when properly followed, doesn't require mere "trust" or "belief".

It offers transparency and intellectual honesty instead




At least my skepticism doesn't involve any magical supernatural superstition.

The Iranian studies uses similar if not same methodology. I can dismiss yours out of distrusts of information as well.
 
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