I could say the same about religion.
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Is it sin?
- Thread starter questfortruth
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I could say the same about religion.
And you would be right for all religions except the true one which has no apparent form in public right now.
Religion when mixed with falsehood it's benefits are not there. It is harmful.
Truth in terms of religion requires proof and insights, and if people follow without knowledge, that which they know is not beneficial since they follow what they don't. That confuses people and confuses their own selves as well.
I don't think there *is* a 'one true religion'. I think *all* of them are false.
And I think that *all* religions are 'mixed with falsehoods' because they all depend on the falsehood of a supernatural.
Nope. Truth requires observation and testing. Insights are not even close to being enough, and 'proof' can only be found by testing, which religions don't do (because, I think, it would show them to be wrong).
Second rule of doubt: the easiest person to deceive is yourself.
Proofs require testing and insights are useless if not testable. Evidence that doesn't change the probabilities isn't evidence at all.
TagliatelliMonster
Veteran Member
No. In that case, I address the stuff provided and will then dismiss / accept it based on its merrits.
I have yet to be provided with "evidence / proofs / insights" concerning supernatural stuff that isn't fallacious to boot.
Speak for yourself.
Why should it not be doubted?
The time to stop doubting is when independently verifiable evidence is presented.
That time hasn't come.
And to me you are right if your perspective is true. If no true religion, then all harmful. However, I mentioned the true one because I believe there is one, and I seek to get to know it and don't claim to know it or represent it.
That's a good rule.
TagliatelliMonster
Veteran Member
Then you should have no problem citing the study from the peer reviewed scientific journal in which it was published.
So far, all you have done is, as usual, simply claiming it.
First, I'm not the one making claims here.
Secondly, if I were to make empty claims and assertions without providing any proper evidence to support those claims and assertions, I'ld actually encourage you to simply dismiss those claims and assertions at face value.
Truth is *defined* to be that which works in practice and passes all tests, even those that attempt to show it wrong.
Show one test concerning anything supernatural.
I am trying to agree with you and you are trying to argue. I have threads where I try to make the case for truth (supernatural type) that I believe. But my reply in context of what you are saying is that you are correct (well almost and would be if there is not true religion).
Audie
Veteran Member
Seems to me that its a sin for men to even see
a woman's uncovered hair, let alone- gasp - an
ankle.
Ive heard about that.
We Never Know
No Slack
Got a link for that definition?
Revelation 17:18 says that the United States is the most powerful nation in the world, that it attacked Iraq, known for sexual perversion, flaunting wealth (especially pearl necklaces, like the "simple pearl necklace" of Barbara Bush), violence, sin, and corruption of Iraq. For this, the bible calls the US the Whore of Babylon. US soldiers have raped Iraqi women (or had consensual sex) and abandoned them with their children. Iraqi law forbids that kind of behavior, so they have no laws to deal with the ******* (half-orphaned) kids. US policies always protect US soldiers from prosecution (they could kill the pope and get away with it).
Christians believe that we are what we put into ourselves (porn, junk food, lazy hobbies, etc). Aren't we also affected by the sleaze of others around us? Did the sex scandal of Clinton alter anyone's behavior? Surely there are civilizations that go naked or topless at beaches, and they don't consider nudity to be porn (though they are attracted to attractive people).
Modern kids (like everyone else) are glued to their iphones. Porn is readily available. Generations before, kids would be glued to porn. Modern kids play games, chat, and are quite aware that porn is readily available, but they don't avail themselves of it as much as they could. The Christian fear that the internet (or iphones) would corrupt youth doesn't seem to hold true. Nor does making condoms available condone sex, but it does cut down on unwanted pregnancies and STDs (including AIDS).
Congress railed against President Bill Clinton, insisting on an impeachment (and he was impeached), over the Monica sex scandal. Larry Flynt threatened to publish a list of the Republican senators who subscribed to his porn magazine, Husler, if they didn't get off the back of Clinton. Notice that the far sexier sex scandal of President George H. W. Bush with Jennifer Fitzgerald, did not result in a an independent prosecutor or impeachment, and though it was in the news and known by Barbara (wife), it was not such a big deal. Senator John Edwards (running for the presidency for 2004 to 2008) had blasted Clinton for his sex scandal, then abandoned his cancer ridden wife for an affair, himself.
Often those who gripe are themselves guilty. They complain about the splinter in their neighbor's eye, while ignoring the logs in their own (from the bible).
If everyone went nude, I don't think that porn would be an issue. I wonder if that would cause more car accidents as people are attracted or disgusted? Does it really matter if someone saw a person naked?
It is normal to die (everyone does it). It isn't habit-forming. It is abnormal (or impossible) to live forever.
Some don't think of the police as good. When a black man is on film getting beaten or killed by cops, some of whom call him an N-word, organizations like Black Lives Matter suggest that we defund the police. In good neighborhoods, the police are seen as knights in shining armor. In bad neighborhoods, new cops are told that if they are polite they will be murdered by the rough elements. So, rich people wonder why the poor would want to get rid of cops.
Everything's up to date in Kansas City, they've gone about as far as they can go (showing ankles, for example)....from the play Oklahoma.
Moderates are the ones who want to kill extremists.
What about those who want to do it all the time?
Polymath's post is not in this string, so I can't respond. He asked for proof of the supernatural, so I suggest that he look up Dr. Jessica Utts (currently at the University of California, Irvine), who proved that ESP is real. Various governments also hire psychics (using our tax money).
I think that porn was successful since sex was invented. If you believe in evolution, that was a long time ago.
Perhaps we should practice mating rituals of apes, instead of humans, because they don't seem hung up on porn. So, puff out your cheeks, throw leaves into the air, and see if a potential mate is swept off their feet. Certain birds dance, make noises, and puff out feathers. I suppose it is a matter of whatever turns on their mates.
Well, certainly anything that is true has to pass all tests, even those trying to show it wrong.
The converse is the only issue. But then, what does it mean to be true? It can only mean that it stands up to any challenge (any test) that attempts to show it is wrong.
Audie
Veteran Member
Im doomed to hang by my hair in eternal fire anyway for leading men into Sin with hair and
bare arms and even the hideous spectre of,
yes, SHORTS!
So, I may as well continue.