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Is it appropriate for the President of the United States to issue orders to private companies?

Discussion in 'North American Politics' started by fantome profane, Aug 23, 2019.

  1. fantome profane

    fantome profane Have you read the Whistleblower complaint?
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    Is it appropriate for the President of the United States to issue orders to private companies?

    I particularly want to hear from our conservative and libertarian members on this. Would it bother you if a U.S. President started giving orders to private companies regarding how they do business, who they do business with etc? Is it ok for the government to take control of the means of production through a President decree?
     
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  2. columbus

    columbus Conservative Catholic from Hell

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  3. sun rise

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    I predict Trump supporters won't attack him for this anti-American statement. Most likely they'll pretend it never happened or that he did not mean it.
     
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  4. fantome profane

    fantome profane Have you read the Whistleblower complaint?
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    Which is why I didn’t mention The-rump.
     
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    Hmm, from what I've seen it's more like a warning than an order. But, Trump has a point on this -- if China-US trade tension increases it is harmful as a whole to us to rely on participating in that market. That tension, BTW, has been there long since before Trump was in office it's just Obama and his predecessors caved where as Trump is generally refusing to. The fact remains -- we are the largest market for their goods and we control that market -- Beijing figures that out or self-immolates. Up to them really... China is a small portion of our export goods and we can import from nearly anywhere else or make our own. Sure, we might get a short-term sting from that, but ultimately it's China that loses no matter what the tariff or whatever. Trump does basically have the authority to end all trade with China if he deems that the course of action, so if this is telling US businesses what to do well he can -- at least in this aspect. :D
     
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    The Federal government create regulations for businesses all the time. Ideally, I'd think this should be done by Congress and the President working together.

    The three branches of government ever working together/compromising again seems unlikely. I suspect more and more one branch or the other is going to have to force the issue to get anything done.
     
  7. fantome profane

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    We are not talking about a regulation, or a law. There is a process for doing that. What we are talking about is the President on his own just issuing an order. That is very different from legislation.
     
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    No its not
     
  9. columbus

    columbus Conservative Catholic from Hell

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    Unless, of course, those businesses let the Republican National Committee know that they will be supporting other candidates if Trump doesn't get over himself.

    Then Trump will probably go on to something else for attention.
    Tom
     
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  10. columbus

    columbus Conservative Catholic from Hell

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    So, your response falls into @sun rise category "He didn't mean it."
    :emojconfused:
    Tom
     
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  11. Nowhere Man

    Nowhere Man Bompu Zen Man with a little bit of Bushido.

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    Look at the Socialist Nanny state and all the plastic banning bs that's going on.

    Look at Obama Motors were there a government bought actual stock in a private Enterprise thereby gaining a reasonable amount of control over a company under pretense of too-big-to-fail politicking.

    Look at the mandatory insurance scam that Obamacare had forcing them to accept everybody and keeping a cut for themselves.

    It's one thing to regulate and create boundaries, it's a completely another animal when it starts going into direct control and manipulation of how a said company can operate and what they can and cannot do with their products.
     
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    Our POTUS does have the means of getting private businesses to comply with his orders.

    1. Further tariff hikes can be imposed on imports from China. 2. The start date of previously announced tariffs could be switched to an earlier date. 3. The International Emergency Economic Powers Act can be invoked in order to compel companies to either leave China or face being left out of federal procurement deals.
     
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    Why do you think the companies are even overseas in the first place?

    Socialists, look in the mirror.
     
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    columbus Conservative Catholic from Hell

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    We're discussing the President.
    Not your whataboutism.
    But thanks for playing. I suppose this means you fall into @sun rise category "Won't mention it".

    Boy, isn't sun rise Mr Prophet today!
    Tom
     
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    Once again, we're seeing that Trump is not a conservative,
    as he is so often described. His edict is a command economy
    kind of move, ie, a rather socialistic intent.
     
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    Not really.
    His ilk will call me a Trump supporter when it suits their need to criticize.
    But in this case, when we agree that Trump is horribly wrong, then I'll
    not be called one. He cannot be wrong.
     
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    Because they're capitalists, not patriots.
    It's more profitable to manufacture in China, Mexico, Indonesia, and such. Because American consumers will still buy.

    It won't stop them from complaining about those darned Mexicans stealing our jobs, though.
    Tom
     
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    Even if it costs me more, I do my patriotic duty of buying only American made products.
     
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    I've been buying some Japanese products lately.
    For landscaping, they're the best in the world IMO.
    As someone recently derisively quipped...
    I'm a capitalist, not a patriot.
     
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  20. columbus

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    Oh,
    So you would never buy a Trump brand product.
    But you'll vote for him.

    Got it.
    Tom
     
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