Is Bush an "Idiot" or .... ?

[PureX]

I think Bush is both an idiot and a fool, which is a particularly dangerous combination.

 

[Majikthise]

Ah yes.
The dying throes of the aging hipsters and Bush bashers.
Sweet candy to my ears.

 

[Sunstone]

Ah yes.
The dying throes of the aging hipsters and Bush bashers.
Sweet candy to my ears.

Hi Majikthise! Nice to see you again!

Although, when two thirds of the country thinks Bush is a bad president, I don't think you can characterize all of those people as "aging hipsters and Bush bashers."

 

[Majikthise]

Hey Sunny, back atcha!

I guess it's about as fair as (as some suggest) asking if those who voted for Bush twice are idiots.

 

[Sunstone]

Hey Sunny, back atcha!

I guess it's about as fair as (as some suggest) asking if those who voted for Bush twice are idiots.

That's a good point. I don't think people who voted twice for Bush were by and large idiots. In some cases, I'd call them "misinformed", but not idiots. For many people I know who voted twice for Bush, it was a tough decision for them.

 

[Majikthise]

Funny, not ha ha, how that definition also applies for me to those who voted for Kerry and Gore. No one can predict the future , but I think we both would agree that it is our obligation to at least make our best effort to decipher the facts.
Polling data IMO is far from fact when presented from either side of the issue.

 

[Sunstone]

...I think we both would agree that it is our obligation to at least make our best effort to decipher the facts.

I not only agree with you there, but would go so far as to say that anyone who has made an honest effort to decipher the facts has done their duty as a citizen regardless of who they voted for. Honest people can honestly disagree about candidates without either side being fools.

 

[Majikthise]

Gads! I love it when you talk like that.
This is why you make the big bucks.

 

[Majikthise]

"THOSE WHO SUPPORT THE WAR IN IRAQ ARE TERRORISTS" ?

It would appear someone put the wrong gas in their tank.

 

[TashaN]

I really don't see what the problem is; America is supposed to have a representative goverment,

--a huge % of the american population are drunken illiterate buffoons,

--we have a drunken, illiterate buffoon for a president.

Looks to me like that worked out exactly the way it was supposed to.

That's really interesting!

I used to hear such a thing from non-americans alot.

 

[Reverend Rick]

You have to ask yourself one question. Are you better off now than you was 8 years ago? If your answer is no, are you being honest? The lower class has a better standard of living than they had before. Where were you living and what were you driving back then and right now?

I don't believe Bush walks on water, but I don't suffer from Bush derangement syndrome either.

Some of you all would not say anything good about our President if he found the cure for cancer.

I am tired of the tax and spend Democrats just as much as I am the borrow and spend Republicans.

Are there any fiscal responsible candidates out there? Mean while I am content with the current tax rates on capital gains. Thats why I voted for GWB twice.

If Hillarious is corinated queen, I will simply retire rather than be pummeled by class envy.

 

[PureX]

So like my other republican friends, it's really all about money for you.

 

[sandandfoam]

If Hillarious is corinated queen, I will simply retire rather than be pummeled by class envy.

What about all that guff in the bible regarding rich men and the eye of a needle?

 

[Reverend Rick]

So like my other republican friends, it's really all about money for you.

It is all about class envy with socialists or their inability to succeed in a capitalistic environment. You have to ask yourself, why is that? Could it be because they are unskilled, uneducated or just plain lazy?

It all boils down to money with elections on both sides of the isles. One side wants to keep their hard earned money and the other side wants to take it from them. Class envy pure and simple.

 

[Willamena]

... or Jesus Christ

Bush is Jesus Christ?

 

[PureX]

It is all about class envy with socialists or their inability to succeed in a capitalistic environment. You have to ask yourself, why is that? Could it be because they are unskilled, uneducated or just plain lazy?

It all boils down to money with elections on both sides of the isles. One side wants to keep their hard earned money and the other side wants to take it from them. Class envy pure and simple.

Years ago, when car alarms first became popular, I was living in inner-city Chicago. And I noticed something odd - that the people who were buying and installing the new car alarms were the very people who tended to steal other people's cars. It turns out that because they were thieves, they just assumed everyone else was a thief, too.

I had to laugh at the idea that some company invented and marketed these car alarms and the only people buying them were the people who steal the cars.

Then the same thing happened with those big heavy security fences and gates. They were designed for people who live in drug infested neighborhoods to secure their houses against the dopers. But it turned out that the dope dealers were the only folks on the block that could afford them, and that needed them to help slow down the cops during a raid, so they buy time to flush their drugs. (And I suppose to protect them from crazed dope addicts looking to steal from them, too.) So once again, it was the criminals on the block who were the only ones who thought they needed and could afford all that "security". It was a sort of self-perpetuating cycle.

It's very much like the fear-mongering of modern conservatives. They see boogeymen every where they turn, because they ARE the boogeymen.

 

[sandandfoam]

It is all about class envy with socialists or their inability to succeed in a capitalistic environment. You have to ask yourself, why is that? Could it be because they are unskilled, uneducated or just plain lazy?

It all boils down to money with elections on both sides of the isles. One side wants to keep their hard earned money and the other side wants to take it from them. Class envy pure and simple.

" Hey Ronnie Regan, I'm black and I'm pagan,
I'm gay and I'm left and I'm free
I'm a non-fundamentalist.
Please don't bother me
..We can dig shelter holes when we've bartered our souls,
For security then we can shovel, while the myth of our dreams
Turns to nightmares, it seems:
From the White House straight back to the hovel" -Christy Moore

 

[Reverend Rick]

Purex, I believe you and I might vote on principle rather than money issues, but most people won't. I don't know of anyone who does not consider voting these days as a lesser of two evils.

 

[PureX]

Purex, I believe you and I might vote on principle rather than money issues, but most people won't. I don't know of anyone who does not consider voting these days as a lesser of two evils.

My 78 year old mom is VERY excited about voting for Hillary Clinton in the next two elections. I've tried to talk her out of it, but there's no hope of it. She's determined. And I don't think it has anything to do with money. She has none. And she's never had any. And she never will have any. And she knows it. The ambitious and greedy among us have long since picked her clean and saw to it that she'd never get any more. So at 78 years old she has to clean up someone else's house (off the books, of course) for a few extra dollars because social security isn't enough for her to live on.

She's one of those "stupid, lazy, unskilled" people that you and my other republican friends refuse to pay a little extra in taxes to help. You can talk all the sh*t you want about idealism, but the truth is that you just don't want to give any of your money to people like my mom. And that's why she's going to vote for Hillary, and I'm going to drive her to the polls, even though I will not vote for Hillary.

You think she's voting out of envy? Dude it runs WAY, WAY deeper then that. She's voting for Hillary because for 78 years of her life she's been f****d over by rich a** h***s who thought they were better, and smarter, and more deserving of wealth than her. Just like YOU do.

She knows Hillary Clinton probably will do nothing to change her circumstances. But she doesn't care, anymore. She's going to vote for Hillary because she knows those rich a** h***s out there who voted for Bush hate Hillary Clinton, and fear her, and she just wants to see Hillary Clinton take some of their precious money away from them, and then watch them all cry and whine like the greedy little pricks that they always were.

And like I said, I'll drive her to the poles, even though I suspect that Hillary Clinton is just another greedy a** h*** in a reformist disguise.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

You have to ask yourself one question. Are you better off now than you was 8 years ago? If your answer is no, are you being honest? The lower class has a better standard of living than they had before. Where were you living and what were you driving back then and right now?

The Dollar is worth just over half what it was eight years ago compared to the Euro.
People can't be doing that well on average as you suggest. except by relying on credit.
and it seems that that is about run out for the sub prime market... and very restricted and expensive for everyone else.
That is like throwing away Half of what the country is worth in just 8 or 9 years.
I don't suppose your Governments shouts too loud about that though.