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Is being gay a sin according to your religion?

in islam became gay is not sin but gay sex is big sin same like adultery.......or sex with women without marriage......

in islam faith God will forgive all sins except shirk...........

if you are gay and you are muslim.........in afterlife you will enter hell first then paradise

all muslim people in the end will enter paradise

If God Willing....
 

Sundance

pursuing the Divine Beloved
Premium Member
In the end, I needed a more progressive theology and structure. The ECUSA is great, and I have a great deal of love and respect for the church, but I needed to serve somewhere else.

Like a Unitarian Universalist church, perhaps?
 

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
Like a Unitarian Universalist church, perhaps?
Love the UUs -- have several colleagues who are UU who went to the same seminary as I did. The UU is, perhaps, a bit too "much" for me, personally, although I have a great deal of respect for what you all do.
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
I don't get it. Telling someone that who their very identity is sin, is a loving thing? Participating in rhetoric that perpetuates systemic violence against a minority group is loving speech?

I believe you don't get it because you do not have love.

I beleive I never said an identity was a sin. If a person wishes to identify themselves with sin that is their problem but sin does not have to be part of ones identity.

I believe I do not participate in rhetoric that promotes violence. I believe ifI say I love someone and someone wants to hit them for it, it is not because my words have engendered it but because people are prone to violence and will use any excuse to do it.
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
Your constitution is not my constituion. I am in a different country. Sin only applies to those that follow the specific religion.

I believe what you mean is that a specific religion considers it to be sin. God applies His rules to everyone when they are not just culturally oriented.
 

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
I believe you don't get it because you do not have love.
Your belief is unfounded and should be changed or kept to yourself.
I beleive I never said an identity was a sin.
Regardless of what you believe you said, that is what you said.
If a person wishes to identify themselves with sin that is their problem but sin does not have to be part of ones identity.
It certainly doesn't. But the anti-gay crowd force the label of "sin" onto the identity of LGBTQ+ people. One's sexual identity is part of who one is. To label that identity as "sin" is to label one who identifies as such as "sin." And that unloving and violent practice needs to stop.
I believe I do not participate in rhetoric that promotes violence.
I don't care what you believe. I care about what you do. And when you speak out against homosexuality as sinful, you are complicit in the dehumanization of those who identify as such. Dehumanization is violence.
I beleive your churches are apostate.
A patently unloving stance toward fellow people.
 

dgirl1986

Big Queer Chesticles!
I believe what you mean is that a specific religion considers it to be sin. God applies His rules to everyone when they are not just culturally oriented.

Actually his laws were only meant to be for the jews. The bits about it being for everyone were added later. A bit suspicious if you ask me.
 

AlphaAlex115

Active Member
Norman: Hi AlphaAlex115, I am a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints and we believe marriage should be between on man and one woman.
Although we do not know what causes homosexuality or other inclinations a human might have we believe acting on that inclination is the sin. We do not believe that
homosexuals should be harassed, abused, bullied, no discrimination against housing, employment and other areas of life.



This passage is inspired by one of my long lost, (but recently found!), cousins. Let us call him kittyboy666.

Now Kittyboy666 spent many an afternoon investing his muddled time teaching me the ins and outs of religion. I still fondly remember him sitting cross-legged on my bed with a massive bible in his hands, reading me stories and showing me the path. Our relationship quickly grow intimate. The physical kind of intimate. And by physical, I mean physical. I guess you could say that my body was exhausted after our little sessions! Haha, just a little joke by me. We are both boys of course, and like to do boy things. Anyways, I digress. The one real truth he taught me was that God actually intended us to love the same sex. I can't remember how he reached such a conclusion... but it was something hidden in the bible. Between the words per se. Everything in it promotes homosexual behaviour, and heterosexuals and homophobes have less of a chance getting into heaven. Can anyone back me up on this? I wish Kittyboy666 was here, but he seems to be preoccupied. Sometimes he's all I think about... Sorry haha!!! just thinking about him now. Anyway please reply.
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
Actually his laws were only meant to be for the jews. The bits about it being for everyone were added later. A bit suspicious if you ask me.

I believe that is not totally true. Some laws are universal. Knowing Jesus as Lord and Savior helps to sort out which is which.

I beleive later is better tha never.

I believe one may suspect any number of things that are not correct.
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
Your belief is unfounded and should be changed or kept to yourself.

I believe my foundation is solid and this is a debate.

Regardless of what you believe you said, that is what you said.

I believe you think so but unless you can demonstrate why you think so you are just blowing smoke.

It certainly doesn't. But the anti-gay crowd force the label of "sin" onto the identity of LGBTQ+ people. One's sexual identity is part of who one is. To label that identity as "sin" is to label one who identifies as such as "sin." And that unloving and violent practice needs to stop.

I believe we label the sin as sin and not the people. We believe people can come to the light and be saved from thei sin. It is not our fault that people identify themselves with sin. It is not love to encourage a person to continue in sin and it is love to encourage a person to come out of their sin.

I don't care what you believe. I care about what you do. And when you speak out against homosexuality as sinful, you are complicit in the dehumanization of those who identify as such. Dehumanization is violence.

I believe sin is quite human.

A patently unloving stance toward fellow people.

I believe it is never love to provide a church that beleives in sin.
 

AlphaAlex115

Active Member
I don't think any religion has a thing against being gay, I think they only have problems with the homosexual intercourse.

Dunno, just sayin'.

I've got christian friends who are incredibly homophobic. I know for a fact it's due to religion. It inspires hatred against fellow man.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
I've got christian friends who are incredibly homophobic. I know for a fact it's due to religion. It inspires hatred against fellow man.

Or, perhaps those friends are part of the MANY of Matthew 7:21-23.
Anyone single is to behave in moral way. Not practice sin - 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 - refrain from the practice of sin.
Since only scriptural marriage - Genesis 2:24 - is recognized, then all single people need to abide by that.
We are nearing the soon coming ' time of separation ' on earth - Matthew 25:31-33 - before the start of Jesus' coming 1,000 year governmental rulership over earth begins.
During Jesus' millennium-long day of governing over earth all of our imperfections will be No more - Revelation 22:2
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
I don't think any religion has a thing against being gay, I think they only have problems with the homosexual intercourse.
Dunno, just sayin'.

In Scripture, what is translated into English as sexually immoral is from the Greek word ' porneia '.
Porneia is also where we get the English word pornography.
Porneia is also translated a fornication.
Porneia also includes as wrong having sex with an animal as being unscriptural.
So, the problem isn't with the gay person, but like the rest whether one's conduct or behavior is scripturally moral or not.
 

Ingledsva

HEATHEN ALASKAN
In Scripture, what is translated into English as sexually immoral is from the Greek word ' porneia '.
Porneia is also where we get the English word pornography.
Porneia is also translated a fornication.
Porneia also includes as wrong having sex with an animal as being unscriptural.
So, the problem isn't with the gay person, but like the rest whether one's conduct or behavior is scripturally moral or not.

Have you read the whole thread from page one?

It is a very interesting debate.

I don't believe there is actually anything against homosexuality in the Bible.

Most verses Christians claim are about such - are actually about Sacred Sex.

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dgirl1986

Big Queer Chesticles!
Have you read the whole thread from page one?

It is a very interesting debate.

I don't believe there is actually anything against homosexuality in the Bible.

Most verses Christians claim are about such - are actually about Sacred Sex.

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I have also been told by a few people that when the bible talks about a man lying with a man, they are talking about rape.
 

Norman

Defender of Truth
This passage is inspired by one of my long lost, (but recently found!), cousins. Let us call him kittyboy666.

Now Kittyboy666 spent many an afternoon investing his muddled time teaching me the ins and outs of religion. I still fondly remember him sitting cross-legged on my bed with a massive bible in his hands, reading me stories and showing me the path. Our relationship quickly grow intimate. The physical kind of intimate. And by physical, I mean physical. I guess you could say that my body was exhausted after our little sessions! Haha, just a little joke by me. We are both boys of course, and like to do boy things. Anyways, I digress. The one real truth he taught me was that God actually intended us to love the same sex. I can't remember how he reached such a conclusion... but it was something hidden in the bible. Between the words per se. Everything in it promotes homosexual behaviour, and heterosexuals and homophobes have less of a chance getting into heaven. Can anyone back me up on this? I wish Kittyboy666 was here, but he seems to be preoccupied. Sometimes he's all I think about... Sorry haha!!! just thinking about him now. Anyway please reply.

[QUOTE]Norman: Hi AlphaAlex115, I can't say that I agree with your post, I have been reading the Bible for over thirty-years now. I find no evidence linguistically, historicity, culture and or oral stories passed down that became scripture to support your belief. I have used this passage in Isaiah that I have used as a rule of thumb over the years.Isaiah 5:20 ¶Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! I know this to be true for myself that it is a good passage as check-mate into my behavior.[/QUOTE]
 
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