MNoBody
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that i can agree withWhatever the great signs in the heavens will be, I am confident people will not need to strain at nats in the sky to see them.
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that i can agree withWhatever the great signs in the heavens will be, I am confident people will not need to strain at nats in the sky to see them.
I didn't. You're taking what I'm saying personally. We have not sinned.
Good luck with that.We are all blessed, for good pair of words
The wages of sin is death actually.We don't need redemption because we're not drowning.
The meaning is found is being saved from death, not in dying.If drowning helps you find value in life, who is to say your view has no meaning.
Jesus disagrees.Life doesn't revolve around our beliefs. It is what it is.
God says we did.
Good luck with that.
The wages of sin is death actually.
The meaning is found is being saved from death, not in dying.
Jesus disagrees.
I prefer to have God somewhere in the picture. Whether as the One we turn to for deliverance from evil things, or even possibly as the One who told us in advance that such things would come one day.
Since God says one thing and you the opposite I need to take what you say with a grain of salt.We have not. Why do you need to see yourself deprived or drowning (or accept that you are)?
Glib little fantasy you have there.Actually, my life is better when it's blessed. It lets me see the positive myself and in others. It gives me a reason to do what I do. I learn from my mistakes rather than feel "the need" to suffer from them.
Overruled by God.There is no sin. The wages of blessings is life.
He says we all need to be saved.But you're not drowning, so there isn't separation from god. Why do you personally feel you need to drown in order to be saved? I know you said god told you, but do you follow god without thinking about what you're following? Do you have a good understanding of who/what you are following or do you do so just because god says so?
It doesn't.
If you prefer to have God in the picture......stop worrying about the end of everything.
Do what is necessary NOW to have god in the picture. Like staying safe and helping others.
If "the end" comes than it does. Sitting around and whining about self fulfilled prophecies....what good does that do?
We are told to watch. The signs are for those who can read them. Not for those choosing to pretend there could be no signs.
Since God says one thing and you the opposite I need to take what you say with a grain of salt.
Glib little fantasy you have there.
Overruled by God.
He says we all need to be saved.
Yes, He does disagree and in black and white.
We have not sinned
Other pestilences were signs also. I notice that the time from the black plague till the Spanish Flu was longer than say, Ebola or Sars to Covind 19. So, it seems the intensity and frequency is more. That is what we look for, like a woman in labor. The pains get shorter and shorter apart.This is no more a sign of the end than any other plague in the past.
You really can't convince anyone your opinion is better than Scripture.It does help to take other people's views into consideration without thinking we need to convince you of something. It's not personal.
If we pretend it is all roses and no thorns it could be.I was following you up until this insult. Is seeing positive things in human nature a negative thing???
Yes they are. Salvation needs to be asked for though. It doesn't come by osmosis.No. Blessings arnt overruled by god; they are from god.
God said we are all sinners and all need to be saved. If some poor folks are so demented or far gone, or clueless or whatever, that they think they have no sin, it changes nothing.We don't. Those who believe they are drowning need to be saved. Those who know we are not, do not need to be.
Jesus is True before we accept Him. Accepting Him does not make Him true!How does accepting something is true (belief) make it true?
You don't understand the concept of sin, if you believe this. You can believe that committing sins is okay, that there's nothing wrong with it, but that doesn't then mean you haven't committed them. If you commit murder but don't believe there's anything wrong with it, that doesn't change the fact that you committed murder.
You really can't convince anyone your opinion is better than Scripture.
If we pretend it is all roses and no thorns it could be.
Yes they are. Salvation needs to be asked for though. It doesn't come by osmosis.
God said we are all sinners and all need to be saved. If some poor folks are so demented or far gone, or clueless or whatever, that they think they have no sin, it changes nothing.
Jesus is True before we accept Him. Accepting Him does not make Him true!
Other pestilences were signs also. I notice that the time from the black plague till the Spanish Flu was longer than say, Ebola or Sars to Covind 19. So, it seems the intensity and frequency is more. That is what we look for, like a woman in labor. The pains get shorter and shorter apart.
When we sin, it isn't a separation from god.
As per christianity, we don't all believe we have sinful nature that causes us to sin-it's our choice (in most cases, let's say) rather than a pull to temptation.
That depends entirely on what your god is. If your god is truth, beauty, justice, and love, as the Judeo-Christian god is, then sin is - by definition - a separation from God. But if you worship pleasure, or the self, or anything else in Creation, then your sin may actually unite you more with your god. It's all relative.
You don't believe human beings have a temptation to sin? You don't believe our natures are imperfect and conflicted, that it's often a great struggle to do what's right even if we know that it's right?
You don't need to believe that this nature is a result of the Fall, but I don't see how anyone could deny the reality of our "fallen" nature, itself.