Luminous
non-existential luminary
posting around youtube i have found the most elequent of christian respondants who has now proven to me that her Christianity is far truer than Agnosticism. It is imperically proven by history and common sense and it truely does, as Faux News claims, "take more faith to be non-theist."
here is her take:
i responded weakly with the fact that Lord Gautama is God.
Then came her next responce:
here is her take:
Someone isn't regarded as God for very long if there is no proof to back up their divinity. They eventually fade, dissipate, and blend in as a myth but never stands apart and distinct as objective Truth.
Ex: If Michael Jackson didn't empirically prove to have the skills to be the King of Pop, he wouldn't be the King of Pop today or have caused the tremendous impact he had....
-Two thousand years have passed. If Jesus Christ didn't prove to be God incarnate, He wouldn't be considered God today.
-Surely over time somebody would have been able to out-do Him if indeed He didn't prove Himself to be out-of-the-ordinary.
-Christ outdid those that came before Him, and those that have come after Him fall short in comparison to Him.
-Again, my favorite question Mr. Turek asked Mr. Hitchens in their last debate:
How does a crucified man from an obscure village become the LORD of Glory, if nothing happened?
Then on the existence of God side....
Creation testifies to a Creator a.k.a an intelligent Mind behind what what is created.
Moral absolutes (good/evil) point to a Moral Law Giver/Standard/Ultimate Constant that morality is compared TO.
Dawkin's big question: WHO MADE GOD????
Draw a line on a piece of paper.... it starts from ONE singular point right?? What comes before the first point of the line? Nothing correct? Why... it starts there....
Everything has a starting point. In chemistry, lab experiments depend on a constant or else the experiment fails or isn't reliable. A building is built from a firm FOUNDATION. Everything depends on a constant. The Ultimate, Infinite, No limits Creator is God.
i responded weakly with the fact that Lord Gautama is God.
Then came her next responce:
anyway i was just wondering(for those not Christian) why you have so much faith and so much little knowledge and logic.LT,
There is objective historical reliability for Christ being Lord i.e. Christianity... here is some:
-If the NT events are fictional, then why do the non-Christian writers record some as though they actually occurred?
*Jesus Christ is cited by Josephus, Tacitus, Pliny the Younger, Phlegon, Thallus, Suetonious, Lucion, Celsus, Mara Bar-Serapian, the Jewish Talmud (which said he did sorcery-admitting the miracles he did had to have happened, these are the opponents to Christianity.)
-The New Testament alone has over 5,000 Greek manuscripts, the ancient document that follows that is Homer's Illiad with only 643 manuscripts, and all ancient document go down from there. Now if we include different languages the N.T. has 25,000-30,000 manuscripts. While Homer's Iliad barely has 2,400 total manuscripts and Homer existed 800 years prior to Christ walking the earth. Not only that. Even if we were to lose ALL our manuscripts today we could reconstruct the N.T. from the writings of the early church fathers who quoted the N.T. writings so much we can put together the N.T. down to several lines which weren't quoted. Consequently the New Testament is 99.5 % pure to the original with no doctrines of the faith in question.
-I will name some of these early church fathers who named as authentic or cited from certain N.T. books PRIOR to 300 A.D. which was when Constantine rolled around. Here it goes:
Pseudo-Barnabas, Clement of Rome, Ignatius, Polycarp, Hermas, Didache, Papias, Irenaeus, Diognetus, Justin Martyr, Clement of Alexandria, Tertullian, and Origen.
-By the process of comparison and cross checking, the original New Testament can be reconstructed with great accuracy. Since there are copies spread all over the ancient world, there's NO way one scribe or priest can alter the Word of God. No other ancient book is so well authenticated.
-Jerusalem was demolished by 70 A.D. by Titus the Roman emperor. All info included in the NT is so detailed on Jerusalem before it was demolished that it couldn't be written by someone of a later generation. All NT books were written before A.D. 100, about 70 years after the ascension of Jesus.
-If there was ever a place that a legendary resurrection could not occur it was Jerusalem, because the Jews and the Romans were all too eager to squash Christianity and could have easily done it by parading Jesus' body around the city.
-There are about at least 30 characters in the N.T. who have been confirmed as historical through archaeology or non-christian sources.
-Nobody eyewitness for something that they KNOW is a lie, i.e. the disciples said they saw, ate, and touched the Risen Christ, and got killed for saying that. Why would the N.T. writers endure persecution, torture, and death for a fictional story?
-Historical novelists usually don't use the names of real people, especially powerful gov't and religious officials who could easily deny the story and the writers know they are getting into a heap of trouble by writing about them. They were willing to run the risk.. why? The saw Jesus, they saw Him alive, they touched Him, after He had been put to death...
The Bible is the best-selling book of all-time. Its been translated into more than 2,200 languagesno other work has effected art, literature, music, cultures, moralitynothing compares to it!
Let me just give you a comparison because when we look at reliability and this is for any literature, we look at two things: age and number. How old is the copy and how many of those copies do we have so we can cross reference them and see where the differences lie. Lets just look at one work of:
1. Plato Tetralogies 7 copies written 400 B.C earliest manuscript 900 A.D (1300 years)
2. Caesars Gallic Wars 10 copies written in 60 B.C earliest manuscript we have is 900 A.D. (nearly 1000 years)
3. Homers Illiad 643 copies written in 900 B.C earliest copy we have 400 B.C. (500 years)
4. Bible 10,000 manuscripts (part or whole) of the O.T. and over 5,000 manuscripts N.T completed before 100 A.D earliest manuscript we have 200 A.D. (100 years)
1947 Dead Sea Scrolls are found in a cave near the Dead Sea These scrolls belonged to a group of Jewish people who took scrolls that would have been used in the temple and sealed them in these jars and placed them in these caves. We have complete manuscripts of O.T they were reading from at the time these people lived in 145 B.C to 68 A.D. They took them out, compared them and a passage like Is. 53 (1000 years older than the earliest copy we ever had) only one word differed in the entire chapter, but it didnt change the meaning!
"I say unequivocally that the evidence for the resurrection of Jesus Christ is so overwhelming that it compels acceptance by proof which leaves absolutely no room for doubt!"
- Sir Lionel Luckhoo, listed in the Guiness Book of Records as the most successful attorney in history
***Someone isnt regarded as God for very long if there is no proof to back up their divinity. They eventually fade, dissipate, and blend in as a myth but never stands apart and distinct as objective Truth.***
And this is what we have with Christ, objective Truth by how He authenticated Himself by His Resurrection in an empirical glorified body. ~ No eye-witnesses to this- Christianity wouldnt have lasted even a day, since the Roman militia clearly outnumbered any crazy heretic going around.. Romans would have brought Christianity to a dead end on the spot, for someone giving allegiance to someone (Jesus) other than them.
How does a crucified man from an obscure village become the LORD of Glory if nothing happened where He authenticated Himself?
CHRIST had to have done something HUGE, to be regarded as God incarnate literally.. and no one can deny that. There is solid evidence for His historical reliability.
You don't know a line is crooked unless you know what a straight like looks like... what is this standard we measure everything which is good??... God, our Creator, our Maker. How do we know what is good or bad? Who put morality into our DNA? Who encoded the DNA? We are not just some random puddle, even the smallest cell has more info than 1,000 encyclopedias.
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