How old is the Universe? And what is future of the universe?

[First Baseman]

So, you are on a "how old is the universe" forum to tell us that it didn't matter since it doesn't matter in your religion?
Actually 6000-10000 years, fyi.

No, if you look at the question I was asked you will find that you are totally out of context in your post. It happens.

 

[4consideration]

So, you are on a "how old is the universe" forum to tell us that it didn't matter since it doesn't matter in your religion?
Actually 6000-10000 years, fyi.

Since when is Catholicism a young earth creationist religion?

 

[First Baseman]

Since when is Catholicism a young earth creationist religion?

It isn't. Don't try to stereotype people according to their denomination, you'll often be wrong. Not all Catholics believe exactly the same things.

 

[Subhankar Zac]

No, if you look at the question I was asked you will find that you are totally out of context in your post. It happens.

Your first reply to this thread was
"I don't worry about the past. It's done and gone. Today and tomorrow are what count."

Then later you said that 20 years ago, science believed it was just 5 billion years old. All the while dodging the actual question entirely and then you caught up in your personal discussions with others on how top notch your bible is.
And at last, still no answer.
Because the past doesn't matter... Unless it's Jesus!

 

[Ouroboros]

ESA Gaia's objective is to map 1 billion stars in our neighborhood, just plotting their locations and distance.

http://www.esa.int/Our_Activities/Space_Science/Gaia/Science_objectives

They're not even done yet. And this is only a small fraction of our galaxy's stars.

 

[Subhankar Zac]

Since when is Catholicism a young earth creationist religion?

Since it stated saying that those who would believe that the earth is flat and it revolves aroux the Sun, will be burnt alive.
Example: Giordano Bruno.
To keep young Catholics in, they have to adopt new beliefs though.

 

[Ouroboros]

http://asd.gsfc.nasa.gov/blueshift/index.php/2015/07/22/how-many-stars-in-the-milky-way/

Specifically, this paragraph:

"There are different models for estimating the number of stars in the Milky Way and the answers they give differ depending on what is used as the average mass of a star. The most common answer seems to be that there are 100 billion stars in the Milky Way on the low-end and 400 billion on the high end. But I’ve seen even higher numbers thrown around."​

Now, this does mean I stand somewhat corrected, in that I overestimated the current high end estimations. But here, even the low-end is significantly higher than merely millions.

And my point was that we don't have the distance nor speed on the majority of them, and we don't for the Andromeda galaxy either.

If we would have a complete 3D map with the metrics of their vectors, for both galaxies, we could make some estimates on the chances of our star colliding or not. But we're only in the beginning of making the map for the closest 1 billion stars, about half-way, I guess on that endeavor alone.

So until we have all the stars plotted in a 3D chart with direction and speed, we can only guess what the future will be for our star.

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It will however be really cool with the Gaia map in a few years. Imagine the games we could have? Real star maps!

 

[First Baseman]

Your first reply to this thread was
"I don't worry about the past. It's done and gone. Today and tomorrow are what count."

Then later you said that 20 years ago, science believed it was just 5 billion years old. All the while dodging the actual question entirely and then you caught up in your personal discussions with others on how top notch your bible is.
And at last, still no answer.
Because the past doesn't matter... Unless it's Jesus!

My friend, Jesus is the present and the future.

 

[4consideration]

It isn't. Don't try to stereotype people according to their denomination, you'll often be wrong. Not all Catholics believe exactly the same things.

I'm not stereo-typing. I'm asking him why he is presuming to tell you that your religion believes the earth is between 6,000-10,000 years old. Your religion field says Catholic. I grew up Catholic and went to 8 years of Catholic school, and I can say without a doubt the charge that the Catholic church believes or teaches the earth to be 6-10 thousand years old is laughable.

I was never taught that.

 

[First Baseman]

Since it stated saying that those who would believe that the earth is flat and it revolves aroux the Sun, will be burnt alive.
Example: Giordano Bruno.
To keep young Catholics in, they have to adopt new beliefs though.

Wrong. Actually the new pope believes most of the secular scientific theories of the day.

 

[Riverwolf]

And my point was that we don't have the distance nor speed on the majority of them, and we don't for the Andromeda galaxy either.

If we would have a complete 3D map with the metrics of their vectors, for both galaxies, we could make some estimates on the chances of our star colliding or not. But we're only in the beginning of making the map for the closest 1 billion stars, about half-way, I guess on that endeavor alone.

It's mostly because of the sheer scales involved, that it's a pretty safe bet that Sun will not collide with other stars.

Sure, it could happen, but it's unlikely.

 

[First Baseman]

I'm not stereo-typing. I'm asking him why he is presuming to tell you that your religion believes the earth is between 6,000-10,000 years old. Your religion field says Catholic. I grew up Catholic and went to 8 years of Catholic school, and I can say without a doubt the charge that the Catholic church believes or teaches the earth to be 6-10 thousand years old is laughable.

OKay.

 

[Subhankar Zac]

My friend, Jesus is the present and the future.

But not mine.
And if you are here to troll, mention that before you engage in a discussion.
Cut to the point and give a straight answer, not involving any deity or Good night.

 

[First Baseman]

I'm not stereo-typing. I'm asking him why he is presuming to tell you that your religion believes the earth is between 6,000-10,000 years old. Your religion field says Catholic. I grew up Catholic and went to 8 years of Catholic school, and I can say without a doubt the charge that the Catholic church believes or teaches the earth to be 6-10 thousand years old is laughable.

OKay.

But not mine.
And if you are here to troll, mention that before you engage in a discussion.
Cut to the point and give a straight answer, not involving any deity or Good night.

I can give any answer I wish or that I desire to. I can cut to the point or take my time about it. You'll just have to suck it up and deal with it because this isn't your site.

And it's still daytime around here.

 

[Subhankar Zac]

I'm not stereo-typing. I'm asking him why he is presuming to tell you that your religion believes the earth is between 6,000-10,000 years old. Your religion field says Catholic. I grew up Catholic and went to 8 years of Catholic school, and I can say without a doubt the charge that the Catholic church believes or teaches the earth to be 6-10 thousand years old is laughable.

I studied my entire life in a Catholic school, from kindergarten to senior year.
And yes, that is their belief along with Adam and eve and other myths from the bible

 

[Ouroboros]

It's mostly because of the sheer scales involved, that it's a pretty safe bet that Sun will not collide with other stars.

Sure, it could happen, but it's unlikely.

I'd say it's more likely we end with a companion. A double star. Then, eventually, when our star is a white dwarf, we could pull (depending on the twin) mass from the other star, and then collapse and become a novae (type II, I think it was).

If we don't go binary and suck up the other star, we would have a black dwarf at the end.

 

[Riverwolf]

I'd say it's more likely we end with a companion. A double star. Then, eventually, when our star is a white dwarf, we could pull (depending on the twin) mass from the other star, and then collapse and become a novae (type II, I think it was).

Pretty sure that's a Type Ia you're thinking of. (I watch a lot of SciShow Space.)

How do you figure that being more likely?

 

[Subhankar Zac]

I can give any answer I wish or that I desire to. I can cut to the point or take my time about it. You'll just have to suck it up and deal with it because this isn't your site.

And it's still daytime around here.

Finally! Admission of trolling... Maybe I was wrong about you a bit this far.
And no, it's night time here.

 

[First Baseman]

Finally! Admission of trolling... Maybe I was wrong about you a bit this far.
And no, it's night time here.

You're wrong, bro, but it's got nothing to do with me. Whether or not you are right is all on you.

 

[4consideration]

I studied my entire life in a Catholic school, from kindergarten to senior year.
And yes, that is their belief along with Adam and eve and other myths from the bible

Really? I was never taught that. Actually, I didn't really even believe many people believed that when I joined RF and saw people talking about it, since it seemed so strange to me. I come from a very large Catholic family, and grew up in a location with a dense Catholic population, and I don't recall any Catholics I know expressing such a belief regarding the earth being young like that.