Interesting. I like how the swami (?) uses some of The Buddha's words to explain it.
Many words are common to Buddhism and Hinduism. After all, we're in the same family.
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Interesting. I like how the swami (?) uses some of The Buddha's words to explain it.
I wonder if the idea of death is an abrahamic idea but not shared by many traditions not just Dharmic and eastern in nature.
That is what a Baha'i also beleives.
I wonder if the idea of death is an abrahamic idea but not shared by many traditions not just Dharmic and eastern in nature.
I blooming missed the thousandth post again.
I'll get one!
I will!
Not the way I see it, but sure. Hindus believe the soul would exist independently. Even a person with nobody to remember him/her still is a soul. according to Hindu belief. On a more ultimate inner level.
The swami in the video I linked, (but since deleted since it seemed too much like proselytizing my belief) compared it to the myth of the sun coming up every day. We totally speak about, think of the sun rising to the east, yet if we look deeper we know it's the earth spinning that causes that illusion. So there is no death, just as the leaves of a tree falling off every year doesn't mean the tree is dead. Just taking a break. So the soul is taking a break.
What does it mean for our short lives here?
What death do you consider Christ taught?
Did not Christ show how to overcome physical death by being alive in Spirit?
Regards Tony
What death do you consider Christ taught?
Did not Christ show how to overcome physical death by being alive in Spirit?
Regards Tony
Can any of us know from experience? Some have NDE and claim to have seen a light, relatives or a glimpse of the next world. Others claim memories of past lives. Some have mystical experiences that confirm us in our faith and then we are back to the same paradox as above.
They are all true to each of us. Can all three be literally true or do they contradict each other?
If one is the best truth, which one and why?
Hindus have no need for a bucket list?
Can any of us know from experience? Some have NDE and claim to have seen a light, relatives or a glimpse of the next world. Others claim memories of past lives. Some have mystical experiences that confirm us in our faith and then we are back to the same paradox as above.
They are all true to each of us. Can all three be literally true or do they contradict each other?
If one is the best truth, which one and why?
I was dead for countless billions of years; and it was alright.
I can be dead for countless billions of years yet again; and it will be alright.
Into this Universe, and 'why' not knowing,
Nor 'whence', like Water willy-nilly flowing,
And out of it, as Wind along the Waste,
I know not 'whither', willy-nilly blowing.
Rubaiyat
Omar Khayyam
Hey Adrian, I'm so far behind, I don't know if I'll ever catch up. But I checked on what was going on today and found the Dalai Lama was part of the conversation. Since they believe he was reincarnated and they teach reincarnation as true, how do Baha'is deal with that?That's an excellent article thanks Carlita.
Here is another excerpt I wanted to share, which I think is very relevant to this thread and completely resonated for me.
The value of interreligious dialogue
What, then, is the value of interreligious dialogue? How should it be conducted? The purpose is to benefit people, not to debate and arise victorious. When we approach dialogue with an open mind, respect and willingness to learn, we benefit others and are benefited in return. However, if we or the other party lack this attitude, then it is better not to discuss religion. For communication to occur, there has to be a sincere wish to listen, not simply to speak. If this is missing, it is best to excuse ourselves from the conversation. Were it to continue, the discussion would degenerate into an issue of power, not spirituality, with one party trying to dominate or convert the other. Genuine interreligious dialogue occurs in an atmosphere of mutual respect and genuine interest. It is a sharing of spirituality that inspires all parties. Someone once observed, “When philosophers and theologians meet, they argue. When spiritual practitioners and mystics meet, they smile.”
Of course, like many religious adherents I don't come close to living up to the high ideals of my faith. However like the mystics, some of these discussions make me smile, perhaps for different reasons, but its genuinely a pleasure and privilege to be here.
I have attended two Dalai Lama talks btw on occasions he has visited my town.
Hey Adrian, I'm so far behind, I don't know if I'll ever catch up. But I checked on what was going on today and found the Dalai Lama was part of the conversation. Since they believe he was reincarnated and they teach reincarnation as true, how do Baha'is deal with that?
From Revelation 5:It’s very clear. John had two visions. One of the Lion and another of the Lamb - two Manifestations of God. The Bab and Baha’u’llah. The Lamb was not Christ as Christ was crucified not slain. And the word used for Lamb in Revelation ‘arnion’ appears nowhere in the Gospels clearly indicating it wasn’t Jesus. Jesus was always referred to as the ‘pascall’ Lamb.
The vision goes on to say that only one new song was sung by Two Figures again indicating They both brought one Faith.
This is what we believe and others are free to disagree.
Only some? Or only some don't believe in reincarnation? But the Dalai Lama does. Is he wrong and misinformed?Welcome back again. It does not matter if you read a couple of posts to catch up or a hundred. It's good to have you here. Only some Buddhists believe in reincarnation, like the Tibetans (I think), while many don't. So what did the Buddha really teach? The answer to that question may depend on who you believe as it's probably near impossible to objectively say with certainty.
For a better answer you could talk to the many Baha'is from Buddhist backgrounds in Asia. The'll have their sutra and suttas figured out better than I ever will. Too bad we have none on this thread
"You need the New Testament to understand all religions prior to Christ"? Yes, for the Christian view of Judaism. But what about the other religions? How do Christians view Hindu and Buddhism?You need the New Testament to understand all religions prior to Christ, then we need the Koran, thus now the Writings of Baha'u'llah clearly contain the Keys.
Then there are other lines of Truth to follow as well
The most Important Key is One God.
Read scriptures with this key, you will look for that Oneness and it is found.
I have finished.
Regards Tony
But the Gods do have wives don't they? But more seriously, "schools" of thought within religions is an important thing to look at. It shows the progression and reworking of a religion from the inside, by the believers themselves. Some prominent Baha'is commented on the way the Baha'i Faith was doing things and got in big trouble. The main one I remember was an article in a magazine run by Baha'is.I had to laugh at this, as it's a western interpretation of a rare school or thought within Hinduism, that just happens to be the closest to any Christian concept of a trinity. Hardly even Hinduism at all any more. You wouldn't likely encounter it outside of western encyclopedias written by non-Hindus.
I really like the Dalai Lama and what he has to say, though haven't heard him speak on reincarnation. I suspect he draws heavily on the religious traditions of his faith as most religious adherents do.Only some? Or only some don't believe in reincarnation? But the Dalai Lama does. Is he wrong and misinformed?