Flood Evidences — revised

[Audie]

Where's the proof.

Will you settle for "shoot and scoot"?

 

[Dan From Smithville]

More evidence keeps on being unearthed:

As Siberia's Permafrost Thaws, Scientists Marvel At The Mammoth Treasures Beneath

It’s evidence for the Flood, because there aren’t any other mechanisms that can explain the perfect preservation of the innumerable surface-dwelling creatures that have been discovered deep within the Permafrost ranging from Canada through Siberia.

Dr. Dalen and others are required to toe the line to appease the naturalistic-driven agenda that plagues the upper echelons of the geologic & biologic sciences, we understand, but as the evidence piles up, the question of how will continue to stay unanswered.

‘Humans caused their extinction’ — what a laugh.

Yes, I too am interested to know how this is only evidence of a flood and nothing else.

My goodness. Perfectly preserved! Wow! That is unheard of.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

More evidence keeps on being unearthed:

As Siberia's Permafrost Thaws, Scientists Marvel At The Mammoth Treasures Beneath

It’s evidence for the Flood, because there aren’t any other mechanisms that can explain the perfect preservation of the innumerable surface-dwelling creatures that have been discovered deep within the Permafrost ranging from Canada through Siberia.

Dr. Dalen and others are required to toe the line to appease the naturalistic-driven agenda that plagues the upper echelons of the geologic & biologic sciences, we understand, but as the evidence piles up, the question of how will continue to stay unanswered.

‘Humans caused their extinction’ — what a laugh.

What is it that makes you laugh at humans as a possible cause of the extinction of these animals?

 

[rational experiences]

If you built a cornerstone pressurised machine by pyramid.

Channelled water from the Nile into and around the pyramid as a flood. Your own. Then flooded your stone ark yourselves....what types of earth histories are you as a human copying?

None.

As rain is natural. Pressure by ice. Melt of ice as water is seasonal balances.

If you knew that to float build was to raise wooden platforms. You did.

Carrying stones up.

Then you wanted to change earths mass as a type of dust into another dust.

What would you be changing?

Pressures is the answer.

Two types.

Natural history of the planet just in space. As presence of stone first.

Then dusts by sun mass conversion of earths layers. Natural space pressures changed.

And the pressures of heaven versus space.

What you hadn't owned is the mystery.

Wood is involved in nature as life's water oxygenation. And the teaching said science evicted biology out of the gardens support.

In biology back in time in life is animals without hair. Including yourself.

Just some of the subjects you don't honour. How men changed animals bio nature by heavens changed. And confessed they had.

As boarding in building an ark is also eviction. All in coercive use of the word.

Science never wanted humanity to know it had lied.

 

[Audie]

Yes, I too am interested to know how this is only evidence of a flood and nothing else.

My goodness. Perfectly preserved! Wow! That is unheard of.

It is heard of in places where people just make up " facts" to boost their vacuous theories.

 

[Riders]

Yes, I too am interested to know how this is only evidence of a flood and nothing else.

My goodness. Perfectly preserved! Wow! That is unheard of.

How is it evidence of a flood?

 

[Audie]

How is it evidence of a flood?

It, like, isn't. That's the point.
Get with the program already.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

How is it evidence of a flood?

I don't know. That is what I was asking.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

It is heard of in places where people just make up " facts" to boost their vacuous theories.

Some journalist used the term in a popular article.

I'm not even sure of the relevance of their level of preservation in the context of the flood. Do mythical floods suspend decomposition?

 

[Audie]

Some journalist used the term in a popular article.

I'm not even sure of the relevance of their level of preservation in the context of the flood. Do mythical floods suspend decomposition?

It's some sort of velikovsky type fantasy

 

[rational experiences]

Earth as a planet by presence water is seen by mass of it on the ground. We see rain fall so we knew a lot of rain has fallen.

Stretched cooled ground water mass held pressurised above earth so it had flooded. Then evaporated. What we live in.

A human theists life lives upon the bare naked ground.

Water evaporated. Mass water body shrunk back into massive earth dips.

Known. Humans advise the stories.

Humans said hence salt water life is split from fresh water life that is split from naked earth life.

As topics they choose to discuss in human only scientific thesis.

So how wasn't the earth flood discussed as a human only scientific topic of three living bio variations,?

It was. Yet a human discussed it.

Teaching to a lost mind mad inherited by sacrificed biological human is an after cause. Human memory returns by bio health so stories also re emerge.

Humans own science theoried thesis said by just humans actually living on the bared naked ground. The places we move are bare where no nature lives.

If nature took up all ground we'd sure find it difficult to walk around.

Types of themes.

Science cannot exist before a human.

It's a human only chosen practice.

It was human god earth natural life existing who fought satanic man's occult nuclear converting of gods body. On earth. We lost our minds the teaching...consciousness.

Never did a theory exist about how a human or nature owned life. By biology of no link in bio diversity.

That effect science nuclear brain changed thinking that we inherited. As a fact why humans outlawed satanic sciences by a legal practice.

As we never owned a pre humans thesis as a science about how life was created. It's a ludicrous human egotism.

We've stated the term is three.

Three in human thesis bio salt water life. Bio life in fresh water mass. Bio life in thin stretched oxygenated water mass. Three totally different subjects.

Then we say twice life nearly was totally destroyed by human scientific theists who tried to link everything together.

Doing it again says three.

 

[shunyadragon]

Global Flood evidence:

***1.Vast herds of grazing animals, perhaps millions of them, discovered within the permafrost (called muck fields by some, due to the mud mixed in from previous melting), in the Alaskan and Yukon regions. In the Siberian permafrost, a few have been discovered upright, with food (some which only grows in temperate climates) discovered still unchewed in their mouths, like the Berezovka Mammoth. (They died instantly, not from a slow-moving ice age!)

http://www.amendez.com/Noahs Ark Articles/NAS Worldwide Mammal Massacre.pdf

The question is raised — and properly so: “How could a Global Flood cause such freezing temperatures?” Keep in mind, some of the water (not most...most were from the “vast springs” underneath the ground) came from above, from the atmosphere....the troposphere?...the mesosphere?...the stratosphere? The Bible doesn’t say, it is silent. (Maybe from all five.) But the waters existing above the Earth prior to the Flood, resulted in mild temperatures, and pleasantly warm.... similar to a greenhouse effect, worldwide. (That’s why Adam & Eve could go naked, and be very comfortable.) Yes, the Bible indicates there were seasons, but apparently mild ones.

All of that drastically changed, with the break in this vapor(?) / ice (?) canopy! Temperatures would drop suddenly!

***2.This project, completed by physics students of the University of Leicester, provides an interesting conclusion:
‘Noah’s Ark would have floated’.

And this one:
Could Noah’s Ark Float? In Theory, Yes | Science | Smithsonian

Further information:
Noah’s Ark was the focus of a major 1993 scientific study headed by Dr. Seon Hong at the world-class ship research center KRISO, based in Daejeon, South Korea. Dr. Hong’s team compared twelve hulls of different proportions to discover which design was most practical. No hull shape was found to significantly outperform the 4,300-year-old biblical design. In fact, the Ark’s careful balance is easily lost if the proportions are modified, rendering the vessel either unstable, prone to fracture, or dangerously uncomfortable.
The research team found that the proportions of Noah’s Ark carefully balanced the conflicting demands of stability (resistance to capsizing), comfort (“seakeeping”), and strength. In fact, the Ark has the same proportions as a modern cargo ship.


The study also confirmed that the Ark could handle waves as high as 100 ft (30 m). Dr. Hong is now director general of the facility and claims “life came from the sea,” obviously not the words of a creationist on a mission to promote the worldwide Flood. Endorsing the seaworthiness of Noah’s Ark obviously did not damage Dr. Hong’s credibility.

Dr. Seon Won Hong was principal research scientist when he headed up the Noah’s Ark investigation. In May 2005 Dr. Hong was appointed director general of MOERI (formerly KRISO). Dr. Hong earned a B.S. degree in naval architecture from Seoul National University and a Ph.D. degree in applied mechanics from the University of Michigan, Ann Arbor.

Thinking Outside the Box: Size and Shape of the Ark

***3.Coupled with that, the dimensions of the Ark, a 6-to-1 ratio of length to width, and 10-to-1 ratio of length to height, are exactly what is needed for a non-powered vessel of that size to maintain stability! Only in the last 2 centuries have ship builders recognized that these proportions are perfect for non-powered barge-like ships to be seaworthy. This is powerful evidence supporting a literal interpretation: How could Moses have known, in recording the event, that Noah was given such ideal dimensions? Fortunate guessing?

***4.The numerous Flood legends (exceeding 250, one anthropologist says near 1,000), that share many similarities, some strikingly so, that indicates a common source.



***5.Furthermore, the Bible indicates, in Psalms 104, that the Flood was the cause of Earth’s mountains reaching such great heights. (With the underground waters spewing upward, the land would, by necessity, settle downward.) This would mean the high mountainous ranges we have today, like the Alps, the Himalayas, the Andes, and others, did not exist before the Flood; they are relatively young in formation. Some were even underwater prior to the Flood — see #6. (Not that the rocks are young, but that the features they form, are new, geologically speaking. What do we see? We observe crisp, well-defined features! If these mountains were millions of years old, we would see weathered, rounded features, due to the extreme wind and other erosion forces that they constantly endure. But we don’t! (This evidence is the easiest of all the geological facts to see...yet to me the most overlooked.)

***6.[related to #5]The marine creatures discovered on the tops of many mountain ranges, even on Mt. Everest — gigantic clams, some measuring 5 feet or more across, found in the closed position, indicating (again) that these creatures experienced a catastrophic event, leading to their quick death. (Clams in natural death, die w/ their shells open.) All remain exposed....if they’re millions of years old, why aren’t they eroded, also? Because these particular ones died at the Flood!!

***7.Where did all the water go? Apparently, it’s still here, at the Earth. If we again take into account what Psalms 104 reveals — that it was the Flood that caused our current topography, the very high mountains and low valleys, then the Earth’s terrain was somewhat smoother than now. (And Genesis tells us, the highest mountain was covered by around 22 ft. of the water.) It’s been determined that if the Earth was smoothed out like a billiard ball, the present water in all the ocean and lake basins would cover the planet to a depth of 2.5 miles! More than enough.....yet, scientists have discovered even more water in the Earth’s mantle, estimated to be almost 10 times as much as exists on our surface! So, that presents no obstacle!

***8.The Chinese character for "boat" comprises three radically different symbols: 'vessel', 'mouth' (representing a person), and the number ''8”. Why is this significant? Because there were 8 people who survived the Flood in the Ark. Some ancient Semitic person thought the Flood Event was worthy enough, to incorporate it into their language, helping others to remember the Chinese word for boat. They didn't have a Bible to get the idea from, and I doubt Moses knew any Chinese people, to get his writing from!

Are you of the mindset that, when reading about God causing a global Flood, you don’t think He’d use His power throughout other aspects of the event? Or afterwards? Let’s see what the Genesis account reveals: He brought the waters above and below to Earth’s surface....He gave Noah instructions on building the Ark, providing those ideal proportions....He brought the animals to Noah (No, Noah didn’t have to go get them, as some dishonestly purport.)....and He closed the door. Only those w/ closed minds would assume (want to, maybe?) that God’s power stopped there. Is He somehow incapable of protecting the occupants in the Ark, or the plant life underneath the waters? Does Jehovah God have to reveal / explain every aspect involved? If He brought the animal to Noah, is it too much of a stretch to believe that Jehovah redistributed them to their former locations after the Flood?

Jehovah God is not required to explain anything more to us....what we do know, the evidence, is enough to build faith in the account.

Another indirect line of evidence, as to why God would cause such a catastrophe, are the Greek, Roman, Hindu, Norse, etc., myths describing “gods” interacting w/ humans, having relations w/ women, and producing offspring. (Since most all myths have some kernel of truth, this common narrative between them, of gods having sex w/ human females & bearing children, must be it.) It parallels Genesis 6:1-4, and explains to some extent why Jehovah had to step in, to thwart the eventual subjugation of the human race into sex slavery. But these “myths” created after the event, have kept it living in the collective mind of the human race.

First Paul W. Kroll us not a qualified scientist. and has a Creationist agenda. Second all these catastrophic events took place locally or regionally at different times i Geologic history of known cause ad not a world flood.

 

[rational experiences]

All studies tests are only built by men studied by men are chosen by men.

Proves you did it.

Father said an innocent human had to lie like a human theist to argue against you.

Thought is innate survival by all human known aware states are natural. As supportive conditions plus reactive conditions surrounding our life.

You know to take shelter from rain storms heat. Types of real awareness.

Theism is a direct human lie.

We all started lying as humans as one self to try to save us from liars is two liars. Science theists just humans are not a God and not a super intelligent human...just humans.

Two different extinct dinosaurs by star fall atmospheric blasting then carbon mass burning above created extra opened pressurised space entry...snap freeze. By heavens mass body spirit removed Sacrificed.

Never controlled by any human.

When human technology was applied same instance to smaller but larger ice age to beasts and humans who lived with mammoths.

Who lost their hair on their body. Beasts body.

Humans lost hair on head.

Proving that it did occur.

Star mass owning more sun metal than earths rocks. Radiating effect hair loss.

Earth hence by pressure changes was given huge indentations also. As proof of what star mass blasting causes.

In humans it meant height was lost as we weren't hairy...lost bone status health.

As God to us supports our one God body bone density left with God at human death. The teaching.

Flesh and blood and cells aren't left with God.

Theists think upon an ape pretending if human DNA was removed. Not pretending hence ape DNA would be removed the same. By atmospheric changes.

Holds the apes thought in mind status falsely.

We live side by side said the scientist theist as a humans science quote.

Science he said isnt anywhere else.

Hence if he hurt his man's bio body the woman's bio body was hurt too.

If he was a baby man theist. He would claim his human mother did it to him.

If he owned his brothers sanity he would be told you did it to yourself by the machine you built at your side. Not any God.

So today men theme machines controlled by robots to serve whom?

As he won't exist himself. Some type of human animal however would.

When a man used a machine to give himself back his eternal life he named eternal hell as man's sciences. With machine is his answer.

Why he kept making terminator governing man movies putting metal skeleton inside human life body.

As bones are with God earth not metals.

 

[Hockeycowboy]

So you are claiming that there really was a global flood, deep enough to cover all the habitable land on earth?

(How deep do you think?) Did you read the OP? If so, you read the 5th bullet point. That should answer your question. Also related are bullet points 6 & 7.

Take care.

 

[Subduction Zone]

(How deep do you think?) Did you read the OP? If so, you read the 5th bullet point. That should answer your question. Also related are bullet points 6 & 7.

Take care.

.But we can date the mountains using scientific methods. Too bad that you do not have any evidence for your beliefs.

 

[Hockeycowboy]

What is it that makes you laugh at humans as a possible cause of the extinction of these animals?

The estimated world wide population of humans, at that time.
Too many discrepancies in their guessing:
From Encyclopedia.com, “From 6000 b.c.e. to 4000 b.c.e., the world's population may have risen from 6 or 7 million to near 30 million; 2,000 years later, [IOW, 2000BC] as the plough was replacing the hoe, it may have reached 100 million.”

But Wikipedia states, around 1000 BC [an entire Millenium later], the population was “reaching 50 million people.”

Even the guessers don’t have their story right.
It’s made up, to fit a popular explanation of the Pleistocene extinctions. I.e., Due to overkill.

Prior to the discovery of these extinctions, the human population was purported to be 50,000 at 6,000 ya, spread across the globe.
Not enough to cause these extinctions.

Isn’t it amazing how the numbers miraculously increased?

This does nothing to explain how these animals got captured within the Permafrost layers.

 

[Subduction Zone]

The estimated world wide population of humans, at that time.
Too many discrepancies in their guessing:
From Encyclopedia.com, “From 6000 b.c.e. to 4000 b.c.e., the world's population may have risen from 6 or 7 million to near 30 million; 2,000 years later, [IOW, 2000BC] as the plough was replacing the hoe, it may have reached 100 million.”

But Wikipedia states, around 1000 BC [an entire Millenium later], the population was “reaching 50 million people.”

Even the guessers don’t have their story right.
It’s made up, to fit a popular explanation of the Pleistocene extinctions. I.e., Due to overkill.

Prior to the discovery of these extinctions, the human population was purported to be 50,000 at 6,000 ya, spread across the globe.
Not enough to cause these extinctions.

Isn’t it amazing how the numbers miraculously increased?

This does nothing to explain how these animals got captured within the Permafrost layers.

You are asking the wrong people. Why didn't you do a search on Google scholar? And remember, even if there is no explanation for the ice age preservation of some megafossils is not evidence for you ad hoc explanation.

You still have no evidence. Perhaps you should learn what is and what is not evidence.

 

[Hockeycowboy]

Some journalist used the term in a popular article.

I'm not even sure of the relevance of their level of preservation in the context of the flood. Do mythical floods suspend decomposition?

You have a freezer, right?
Does it “suspend decomposition “?

If there was a vapor canopy extending over the Earth, what would that mean for much of the Earth’s climate? A greenhouse effect, maybe? And if it did exist, what effect would this have on Carbon dating?

What would happen if all of that water was released suddenly?

I appreciate your willingness to reason on the subject. You seem to be the only one here….most of the others that have replied, just try to belittle these concepts, except for maybe @KWED . Maybe he’s open minded, I’ll find out.

 

[rational experiences]

Any human should ask why does biblical natural disaster suddenly become data today for a new machine theist as just a living human? Thesis earth plus cosmic changes.

To want answers about exact time and place. Historic.

When the sun that owns why our heavens light is fuelled is getting smaller and smaller so only a heated black hole is left? Historic nuclear position in space.

Scientists said clear cold gas is origin to earths natural burning mass position one energy body held mass in space. It too cooled so it's mass shrunk. No burning cold...just a heated space hole was left. Then gases hot moved out of earth.

Space plus clear gas heavens doesn't involve the sun light said the human scientist as the coldest gas.

How can it suddenly become human used when its science who only uses alight as first position? As both a living thinking life himself then science converting.

In your fed back mind altered gas heavens burnt transmitter AI designer head.... do you think you're possessed by nuclear sludges advice. As human science on earth is using cold coldest choices to not blow up cause a natural disaster?

To earths mass already. As I'm doing coldest by light.

Scientist man. I became a geologist and archaeologist by my mental capacity to prove humans as men of God had destroyed life on earth.

Are you seeking data to say yes science is trying to cause disaster again so I must own data to prove it or are you seeking answers to cause the disaster?

Science owns two types of human theist men.

Seeing a theists destroyed human mentality is proven. As you built nuclear bombs in vision that bombs will blow apart biology on earth in full awareness yet wanted to do it anyway.

Scientists don't love life yet they sure can use word coercion pretending how loving their science research is as a man. It's so important he says to learn....yet they are seeking destruction advice.

Two men of science theorising own different personal motivations.

I ask was that why they used to kill off scientists by the old holy secret society? Knowing science wants attacked lifes data.

In the beginning the immaculate heavens was hot.

Men theme cosmic space consciously by cold clear immaculate gas heavens only. Not a no light hot gas first place.

Men tal it Y.

As I want. My I want is theoried as beginnings before natural life owns it's natural status. In belief how I then can control manipulate it myself.

By claim I will own it before human life existed. Then only I will own it. Greedy man mentality.

Yet it's before a machine is even designed or built.

It's thought about just planet earth first. As the God.

As his machine doesn't exist in reality.

No man is God warnings.

As a man wrote the summation history looking back at science of man to confirm men in science had caused it.

One motivation only legal.

Isn't why he's doing it today. As the same theist thinker was told the destructive earth and human life advice. Yet rebuilt it anyway.

 

[rational experiences]

Another saviour ice question.

If ice disappeared completely now what data would a scientist own factually to quote my evidence about earth as a body without ice.

When all data is only supported today by the ice mass existing?

Was why they said no man is God you human aren't ice the body the saviour. As the saviour was newly born end of every year a sea son.

Then read the data where a human man makes a false claim that a man as a human baby and a human man adult saved life on earth as the saviour.

As wasnt it a testimonial against a self idolator as a human theist! A summary of human behaviour also.

Only unnatural bio blood cell flesh changes would have proved you wrong.