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Featured Flood Evidences — revised

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by Hockeycowboy, Jul 31, 2019.

  1. Subduction Zone

    Subduction Zone Veteran Member

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    But the author of Luke faked the nativity story. Why take the genealogy seriously?

    Again, the author of Luke was a man with human failings. To believe otherwise is blasphemy.
     
  2. Hockeycowboy

    Hockeycowboy Well-Known Member
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    Lol!

    You’ll never get it...
    The writer was Luke. The Author was Jehovah! 2 Timothy 3:16-17
     
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    No, most biblical scholars do not believe that Luke was the author of Luke. But even if he was he was not an eyewitness. If you read Luke you see him admit it right from the start. As to the nativity story the author of Luke either lied or screwed the pooch. He has Jesus born over a ten year period of time.

    And no, none of the Bible was written by Jojoba or whoever's name that you mangled.
    EDIT: Also the verse you sited does not apply to the New Testament. You do not seem to know what the author of that was referring to.
     
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  4. Hockeycowboy

    Hockeycowboy Well-Known Member
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    As per your understanding, which I take with a grain of salt.

    “Luke touches on historical facts that can be verified. For example, he uses a number of obscure titles of Roman civic officials, such as praetors, or civil magistrates, in Philippi; politarchs, or local rulers, of Thessalonica; and Asiarchs, or leading men, in Ephesus. (Acts 16:20, Kingdom Interlinear; 17:6; 19:31) Luke calls Herod Antipas a tetrarch, or district ruler, and Sergio Paulus he calls the proconsul of Cyprus.—Acts 13:1, 7.

    Luke’s correct use of titles is noteworthy because when the status of a Roman territory changed, so did the title of its administrator. Yet, “time after time such references in Acts prove to be just right for the place and time in question,” says Bible scholar Bruce Metzger. Scholar William Ramsay calls Luke “a historian of the highest order.” “

    Excerpt from : Did You Know? — Watchtower ONLINE LIBRARY
     
  5. Subduction Zone

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    Please try to use sources not written by crazies.

    The author of Luke did get some facts right. But you cannot cherry pick. If you are going to refer to the facts the he got right you also have to own up to the facts that the author of Luke got wrong.
     
  6. Hockeycowboy

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    Any evidence should be judged on its own merit, not based on someone’s opinion of who presented it! Lol.

    At least I provide references, you hardly ever do. Except “Aron Ra” videos!

    Scholar William Ramsay would disagree.

    Are you a scholar?
     
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  7. Subduction Zone

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    Aron Ra beats any of the references that you provide. I have provided references, what facts do you need to be supported?

    And the only William Ramsay that I could find was a chemist. Your scholar does not appear to be well respected.

    But you are right. Evidence should be judged on its own merit. When one does that, the author of Luke undoubtedly screwed the pooch.
     
  8. Hockeycowboy

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    It wasn’t at all hard to find...

    William Mitchell Ramsay - Wikipedia

    Excerpt:
    “By his death in 1939 he had become the foremost authority of his day on the history of Asia Minor and a leading scholar in the study of the New Testament.”

    I think we’re done. This is off-topic somewhat.
     
  9. sooda

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    Good for you. Science and education doesn't matter for some segments of the population.
     
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    Sumer was farming and had invented sailboats and irrigation and writing long before Adam and Eve.

    William Ramsay endorsed the Industrial and Engineering Trust Ltd., a company that claimed it could extract gold from seawater, in 1905. It bought property on the English coast to begin its secret process. The company never produced any gold.

    Ramsay was the president of the British Association in 1911–1912
     
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    Paul is referencing a myth, Its a teaching device.
     
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    Even though I expect it from you, I still find myself amazed at how often you completely ignore much of what I post to you.

    Sure, some folks "could" be having genuine conversations with those things, in the same sense that some folks "could" be seeing fairies in their gardens, or our political leaders "could" secretly be reptilian aliens.
     
  13. Hockeycowboy

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    “Before Adam and Eve”?


    Writing – a system of graphic marks representing the units of a specific language – has been invented independently in the Near East, China and Mesoamerica. The cuneiform script, created in Mesopotamia, present-day Iraq, ca. 3200 BC, was first.”
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    The Evolution of Writing | Denise Schmandt-Besserat
     
  14. sooda

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    Yeah about a thousand years before Adam and Eve.. Do you know that Sumer was in Iraq?

    [​IMG]
     
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    William Ramsay was obsolete before the Dead Sea scrolls, or the Ugarit Tablets or Nag Hammadi were ever discovered.

    Why on earth would your put your faith in his obsolete conclusions? JW evolved from the Millerites.
     
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    You could hardly cite a less convincing source that
    "watchtower", you may as well cite a tabloid.

    We dont suppose you have a more up to date
    assessment of "luke" that a guy who died in 1865?

    Of course, it is better than you getting your "science
    from someone who died in 1727.

    Speaking of science, wasnt this thread about "Flood"?
    You is drifting too far from shore.
     
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  17. Hockeycowboy

    Hockeycowboy Well-Known Member
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    So, you do renege. Figures.

    How sad that you have such a closed-minded bias against many of your fellow posters, dismissing their statements regarding their dialoguing with these spirits.

    That’s quite a few on here!
     
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    I just showed you to be wrong. Lol.

    3200 BCE was not before Adam!
     
  19. Audie

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    Ever notice how your mind is sealed as tight
    as a space shuttle hatch, against the disproof
    that "the flood" ever actually happened?

    If, btw, "jesus" believed it happened, that is
    not surprising. If so, it quite unnecessrily
    demonstrates that he was as ignorant as one
    would expect people to be then.
     
  20. Audie

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    How do you get before or after a non-event?
     
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