Existence

[King Phenomenon]

I believe in things for which there is evidence.

So does that mean you don't believe in evolution despite the fact that you understand that the evidence shows it is real?

That's a rather odd position.

Yeah
I’m an odd dude
What can I aay

 

[Left Coast]

Yeah
I’m an odd dude
What can I aay

Sounds like you're a dude who's fooling himself. You know x is true but are somehow trying to ignore that and pretend that something else is true instead.

My question is, why are you doing that?

 

[King Phenomenon]

Sounds like you're a dude who's fooling himself. You know x is true but are somehow trying to ignore that and pretend that something else is true instead.

My question is, why are you doing that?

I think it’s obvious that I wouldn’t have an answer that would suffice for you.

 

[The Hammer]

It's right to those who believe and have faith in things they do not see.
Faith in God is based on evidence for things though not seen.
Can you explain the difference between the two - belief in God, and belief in the ToE?
If you can, then we can look at the wrongs.

No I can't because I don't see much of a difference. As a Polytheistic believer in Gods and a follower of science, I see no contradiction.

My faith allows me to believe in things I have never seen but felt (The Gods) and the science that explains Creation.

 

[The Hammer]

Sounds like you're a dude who's fooling himself. You know x is true but are somehow trying to ignore that and pretend that something else is true instead.

My question is, why are you doing that?

The cognitive dissonance is strong with this one.

 

[sun rise]

I don’t think it’s intent is to teach timeless truths about our nature I think it’s more about introducing people to a more spiritual way of understanding creation which is a rather unparalleled idea and unmatched in its scope and fruition in my opinion.

To me it's eminently spiritual to understand that God created the laws of the universe and that the operation of those laws resulted in the Earth.

 

[King Phenomenon]

The cognitive dissonance is strong with this one.

No discomfort here from the TOE and my rejection of it. All is well here.

 

[King Phenomenon]

To me it's eminently spiritual to understand that God created the laws of the universe and that the operation of those laws resulted in the Earth.

To me it's eminently spiritual to understand that God created the laws of the universe and that the operation of those laws resulted in the Earth.

For me God is beyond law not only with the act of creation but with his present existence.

 

[The Hammer]

If I made such a bold statement as "[the Genesis "story"] is symbolic", as though I am stating a fact, I would expect people would want me to back up or support my statement with some solid evidence.
How do you know the Genesis account is symbol?

Because that is what the majority of theologians agree to. Ask them.

 

[Left Coast]

I think it’s obvious that I wouldn’t have an answer that would suffice for you.

What answer suffices for you? I was trying to understand your thinking.

 

[The Hammer]

No discomfort here from the TOE and my rejection of it. All is well here.

I didn't say it was uncomfortable.

Most people quite enjoy it

 

[Subduction Zone]

Even when I was a Christian I could not believe that God was a liar, so of course I did not take the myths of Genesis literally.

 

[King Phenomenon]

What answer suffices for you? I was trying to understand your thinking.

I lean toward spirituality more so in my life is all.

 

[King Phenomenon]

Even when I was a Christian I could not believe that God was a liar, so of course I did not take the myths of Genesis literally.

He’s a sneaky devil

 

[Left Coast]

I lean toward spirituality more so in my life is all.

So for you, spirituality and accepting the science of evolution are somehow...contradictory? How so?

 

[Spirit of Light]

The cognitive dissonance is strong with this one.

Quoted by Yoda?

 

[Subduction Zone]

He’s a sneaky devil

That is a very strange belief about your God.

 

[nPeace]

No I can't because I don't see much of a difference. As a Polytheistic believer in Gods and a follower of science, I see no contradiction.

My faith allows me to believe in things I have never seen but felt (The Gods) and the science that explains Creation.

Yes, we all believe in something, but die hard believers in the ToE try to make their belief out as something special, as though their belief alone has evidence.
They don't accept that their belief actually requires faith... when in fact it does.

 

[nPeace]

Because that is what the majority of theologians agree to. Ask them.

So it's a band wagon thing. That's quite common, especially these days.

 

[The Hammer]

Yes, we all believe in something, but die hard believers in the ToE try to make their belief out as something special, as though their belief alone has evidence.
They don't accept that their belief actually requires faith... when in fact it does.

ToE isn't a "belief" in the same way faith in religion is.

**** there are more issues with the theory of gravity then there are with the ToE. It's actually based on observable facts. Not mere speculation.