Evidence from Science that God exists

[outhouse]

We are still waiting for your evidence :slap:


You have only provided factual conjecture and unsubstantiated imagination.

 

[Nada]

Did you know that scientist have barely,in the latter part of the 20th century, come to find out that there are, in fact, underground water springs beneath the ocean floor? Yes,its true.The holy scriptures made this known to mankind over 3,500 years ago in the book of Genesis 7:11.READ IT.
"In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, on the seventeenth day of the second month--on that day all the springs of the great deep burst forth, and the floodgates of the heavens were opened.: Genesis 7:11

 

[Nada]

Job 26:7 "He spreads out the northern skies over empty space; he suspends the earth over nothing." THINK ABOUT WHAT IS BEING SAID- It is speaking of the earth being suspended over nothing.This is obviously speaking about space and gravity.Only one who is in outer space can make such an observation.One on earth cannot make this observation by looking up into space from earth.You have to be in space looking down at the earth to make such a statement.Space and gravity are being spoken of here.Such knowledge did not come from man but was given to man.

 

[outhouse]

Did you know that scientist have barely,in the latter part of the 20th century, come to find out that there are, in fact, underground water springs beneath the ocean floor? Yes,its true.The holy scriptures made this known to mankind over 3,500 years ago in the book of Genesis 7:11.READ IT.
"In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, on the seventeenth day of the second month--on that day all the springs of the great deep burst forth, and the floodgates of the heavens were opened.: Genesis 7:11

Stop perverting science you know nothing about. :slap:

The water molecules are locked up in rock and NOT an underground water supply.

 

[outhouse]

This is like asking low hanging fruit to commit suicide, and jump into a machine at a batting cage.


Its a slaughter in here.

 

[LuisDantas]

Science of the gaps.

That may sound flashy, I suppose. Too bad it lacks meaning.

 

[LuisDantas]

You just destroyed atheism of blue fairies, like I did of God in the OP. See how easy it is to destroy the faith based atheism?

It is a good thing that it is so rare and not worth protecting, eh?

 

[TheGunShoj]

Science of the gaps.

How is saying science doesn't have all the answers and therefor we need to investigate and learn more about the universe before we make knowledge claims about it the same as asserting that you already have all the answers (God) which fill in the gaps of scientific knowledge? Those aren't even remotely the same.

You just destroyed atheism of blue fairies, like I did of God in the OP. See how easy it is to destroy the faith based atheism?

That doesn't work for a couple reasons.

#1 Are fairies Gods? If not, that has nothing to do with atheism.
#2 atheism is not a faith based position.
#3 he actually just demonstrated how ridiculous your argument is because he can get the same result from plugging something else non existent into the equation and still get the same answer.

 

[Monk Of Reason]

Science of the gaps.

Science of the gaps is a nonsensical statement. And what gaps would we be filling with science? Science illuminates our universe and we have pockets of ignorance amount certain things that are ever receding. Not knowing something and giving it a divine attribute has occurred since the dawn of civilization and probably prior. However that doesn't make it correct as every major discovery that we had previously attributed to god....wasn't god. Every single time without fail that we have discovered the secrets behind long standing mysteries it ends up not being god. So I find that to continue to do this would be rather asinine.

 

[outhouse]

We are still waiting for your evidence :slap:


You have only provided factual conjecture and unsubstantiated imagination.

Still waiting

 

[Revoltingest]

Follow the logic:
1) Science says that the universe shouldn’t exist in its present form.
2) The Bible says that God created the universe in its present form.
3) The universe does exist in its present form.
4) Therefore God exists.

‘…something isn’t quite adding up.”
http://news.discovery.com/space/cosm...rse-140624.htm

Some issues:
- Premise #1 is wrong.
- Even if premise #1 were correct, the history of science shows us that it is
riddled with errors. This does not lead to the existence of supreme beings.
- #2 & #3 are consistent with each other, but this does not lead to #4.

 

[Man of Faith]

How is saying science doesn't have all the answers and therefor we need to investigate and learn more about the universe before we make knowledge claims about it the same as asserting that you already have all the answers (God) which fill in the gaps of scientific knowledge? Those aren't even remotely the same.



That doesn't work for a couple reasons.

#1 Are fairies Gods? If not, that has nothing to do with atheism.
#2 atheism is not a faith based position.
#3 he actually just demonstrated how ridiculous your argument is because he can get the same result from plugging something else non existent into the equation and still get the same answer.

Which God is for the atheist to ponder. We can see from the OP that science is merely the gap filler for the atheist to satisfy their curiosity about the universe. They have faith that science will one day find the answer and that faith is based on a pre-adherence to naturalism.

 

[metis]

Which God is for the atheist to ponder. We can see from the OP that science is merely the gap filler for the atheist to satisfy their curiosity about the universe. They have faith that science will one day find the answer and that faith is based on a pre-adherence to naturalism.

This simply is not true in regards to science. Science deals with evidence and not preconceived notions, nor is a form of "naturalism".

 

[Sleeppy]

Imagination can be used by anyone yes I agree.


Unfortunately we see exactly how man creates gods.

What evolutionary purpose(s) does imagination serve? Humans aren't able to create something from nothing; they're reconstructing what already exists. Scientific theories are likewise reconstructions of perceived reality, according to experiments and repetition. Ignorance and limited perceptive ability will always be a common factor.

 

[Man of Faith]

Science of the gaps is a nonsensical statement. And what gaps would we be filling with science? Science illuminates our universe and we have pockets of ignorance amount certain things that are ever receding. Not knowing something and giving it a divine attribute has occurred since the dawn of civilization and probably prior. However that doesn't make it correct as every major discovery that we had previously attributed to god....wasn't god. Every single time without fail that we have discovered the secrets behind long standing mysteries it ends up not being god. So I find that to continue to do this would be rather asinine.

When the scientific evidence shows that the universe shouldn't exist in it's present form, yet an atheist says "just trust science", then that is a science gap filler. The atheist is saying "there is a gap in our knowledge and I will fill it with science" "Just wait on science to discover more and fill in what we don't know." That's no different than saying God did it.

 

[Monk Of Reason]

When the scientific evidence shows that the universe shouldn't exist in it's present form, yet an atheist says "just trust science", then that is a science gap filler. The atheist is saying "there is a gap in our knowledge and I will fill it with science" "Just wait on science to discover more and fill in what we don't know." That's no different than saying God did it.

If the gap in our knowledge was filled with science then it would be a gap. Its gap of the gaps. There are situations in science where we don't fully understand the processes or why certain things are. Scientists and in some cases, atheists who adhere to scientific reason, leave it alone. Its left at "we don't know".

 

[Revoltingest]

Which God is for the atheist to ponder. We can see from the OP that science is merely the gap filler for the atheist to satisfy their curiosity about the universe. They have faith that science will one day find the answer and that faith is based on a pre-adherence to naturalism.

Three things:
- Science is just as interesting to many of the faithful as it is to many atheists.
- Some atheists have no special interest in science.
- I was an atheist before I ever studied science, which stands on its own.
- I expect science to provide no answers to the ultimate questions about life, the universe & everything.

Make that 4 things.
It's hard to stop when making a list.

 

[TheGunShoj]

Which God is for the atheist to ponder. We can see from the OP that science is merely the gap filler for the atheist to satisfy their curiosity about the universe. They have faith that science will one day find the answer and that faith is based on a pre-adherence to naturalism.

I really don't think you understand what the "of the gaps" fallacy is. You are correct, science does fills gaps...with evidence. God claims have no evidence, they are nothing more than assertions. Yet people like to plug their God into any gaps in our current knowledge to try to gain credibility for their deity, it doesn't work.

"Science doesn't have the answer but I do, God did it! God is better than science!"

It's dishonest. When we don't have an answer to something, it's more honest to simply say we don't know yet than to jump to a conclusion without any evidence to support said conclusion.

God of the gaps - RationalWiki

Might want to read up on it.

 

[TheGunShoj]

When the scientific evidence shows that the universe shouldn't exist in it's present form, yet an atheist says "just trust science", then that is a science gap filler. The atheist is saying "there is a gap in our knowledge and I will fill it with science" "Just wait on science to discover more and fill in what we don't know." That's no different than saying God did it.

Your entire first premise is wrong. You're starting with an invalid argument. No one says that the universe should not exist in it's present form. I would be surprised if you could find one credible scientist who has ever made this statement.

Yes, we trust that science will one day give us the answers to our unanswered questions, why? Because it has been the single most effective tool in determining the truths of our reality. If not for science, what other tool would you suggest that we use to find answers about the universe?

 

[outhouse]

What evolutionary purpose(s) does imagination serve? Humans aren't able to create something from nothing; they're reconstructing what already exists. Scientific theories are likewise reconstructions of perceived reality, according to experiments and repetition. Ignorance and limited perceptive ability will always be a common factor.

Imagination can be used by anyone yes I agree.