Everyone on RF is really an atheist.

[blackout]

Well since I believe the ALL OF EXISTENCE is gOd...
then by my definition,
everyone on RF is a theist.
(because they believe in the existence of MY gOd)

So there.

(unless of course there is anyone here who does not believe the UniVerse/MultiVerse exists....):areyoucra

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Well since I believe the ALL OF EXISTENCE is gOd...
then by my definition,
everyone on RF is a theist.

So there.

(unless of course there is anyone here who does not believe the UniVerse/MultiVerse exists....):areyoucra

But Clapton is God. If all of existence were God, and therefore Eric Clapton, I'd be able to play the guitar much better than I do (i.e. not at all).

 

[Willamena]

Nothing, but as I said before your painting religious faith with a broad brush.

And a particular brush.

 

[Willamena]

But Clapton is God. If all of existence were God, and therefore Eric Clapton, I'd be able to play the guitar much better than I do (i.e. not at all).

Obviously you do not fully embrace Clapton (or you'd practice every day).

 

[blackout]

One must refine the mystic art of the slow hand.....

 

[dogsgod]

Stick around here for a while then

Nothing, but as I said before your painting religious faith with a broad brush.

I stated "for example" and now I'm accused of painting with a broad brush. If you can provide a more sophisticated example, then by all means, please do.

 

[dogsgod]

And a particular brush.

How so?

 

[Willamena]

If you can provide a more sophisticated example, then by all means, please do.

How about the so-called "Abrahamic God" that mistakes the intent for literal? Little could be a more complex idea.

How so?

Yours.

 

[Seven]

I stated "for example" and now I'm accused of painting with a broad brush.

Actually you said

Of course there's other reasons why people come to believe in a god. I was commenting on the simplicity of the god concept itself and one way how a belief can be maintained.

It's not possible to form a sophisticated faith. Religious faith is accepting commonly shared prescribed sets of ancient beliefs.

I took from this that you consider any concept involving a god to be simplistic, and that religious faith is always unsophisticated. If I misunderstood you then I apologise.

 

[dogsgod]

Actually you said

I took from this that you consider any concept involving a god to be simplistic, and that religious faith is always unsophisticated. If I misunderstood you then I apologise.

That's not what you were quoting when you stated I was painting with a broad brush.

Regardless, provide a concept of a God with cultural influence that is more complex than a four year old can understand and I'll retract my statement. Same goes for a sophisticated form of religious faith.

 

[Seven]

That's not what you were quoting when you stated I was painting with a broad brush.

I wasn't referring to the quote, I was referring to your obvious attitude towards believers.

Regardless, provide a concept of a God with cultural influence that is more complex than a four year old can understand and I'll retract my statement. Same goes for a sophisticated form of religious faith.

Peoples concepts of god are personal and as complex as they make them. Even within a theistic faith each individual seems to make their concept of god their own.
The only concept of god that a four year old is capable of understanding is one that is held by a four year old.

Perhaps a better approach would be to find out what individual's actually believe, and then decide if it's simplistic.

 

[ONEWAY]

In response to the main question, atheism is the denial of the existence of any God. In relation to worldviews, this is the definition of atheism. If one is defining atheism differently then its primary definition, please specify how one is defining it and why.

 

[Enoch07]

Atheism is the position that deities do not exist,[1] or the rejection of theism.[2] In the broadest sense, it is the absence of belief in the existence of deities. From Wikipedia

Aethism is the denial of all gods existence. If you believe in only 1 god but not the rest you are a theist not an atheist. If your definition differs then you live in your own reality. :yes:

 

[Tristesse]

Atheism is the position that deities do not exist,[1] or the rejection of theism.[2] In the broadest sense, it is the absence of belief in the existence of deities. From Wikipedia

Aethism is the denial of all gods existence. If you believe in only 1 god but not the rest you are a theist not an atheist. If your definition differs then you live in your own reality. :yes:

You completely missed his point. With regard to any other god but your own, you are an atheist with respect to that particular god. You may believe in a god, but for the ones you don't believe in you are an atheist. You aren't actually an atheist in the broader sense of the word.

 

[dogsgod]

Atheism is the position that deities do not exist,[1] or the rejection of theism.[2] In the broadest sense, it is the absence of belief in the existence of deities. From Wikipedia

Aethism is the denial of all gods existence. If you believe in only 1 god but not the rest you are a theist not an atheist. If your definition differs then you live in your own reality. :yes:

Atheism is the position that deities do not exist. Now think about this. A theist can most assuredly hold a position that deities, other than his/her own, do not exist. In regards to those other deities, the theist is an atheist by that narrower of definitions. Only in the broadest sense does an atheist hold the position that all deities don't exist, including yours.

 

[Azakel]

In response to the main question, atheism is the denial of the existence of any God. In relation to worldviews, this is the definition of atheism. If one is defining atheism differently then its primary definition, please specify how one is defining it and why.

Atheism is the position that deities do not exist,[1] or the rejection of theism.[2] In the broadest sense, it is the absence of belief in the existence of deities. From Wikipedia

Aethism is the denial of all gods existence. If you believe in only 1 god but not the rest you are a theist not an atheist. If your definition differs then you live in your own reality. :yes:

How many time must it be said that this is the modern definition of Atheism? And how many time have you gone back and read the OP where he uses it in the original way?

 

[Enoch07]

...with regard to one God or another. You know EXACTLY what it is like to be an atheist because that is your attitude toward conceptions of God you disagree with. If someone came up to a Christian, or a Jew, or a Muslim in this forum and proposed that Zeus ruled the earth, none of you would have any problem coming up with excellent arguments as to why it makes no sense that Zeus exists. When it comes to Zeus, you think like an atheist.

Do you agree? Disagree?

The point is you cannot think like an atheist if you already believe in a god. Because atheist believe that gods do not exist. It is contradictory statement to say you are a atheist but believe in any god(s). If you believe there are any god(s) at all you are not an atheist. If you believe in a some gods and not others you are a type of theist or deist. If you only believe 1 god exist you are a type of monotheist. No matter how you look at it that is fact. The OP is contradicting himself. He did not specify he was using the definition in any specific way, therefore the modern definition is to be used.

 

[dogsgod]

The point is you cannot think like an atheist if you already believe in a god. Because atheist believe that gods do not exist. It is contradictory statement to say you are a atheist but believe in any god(s). If you believe there are any god(s) at all you are not an atheist. If you believe in a some gods and not others you are a type of theist or deist. If you only believe 1 god exist you are a type of monotheist. No matter how you look at it that is fact. The OP is contradicting himself. He did not specify he was using the definition in any specific way, therefore the modern definition is to be used.

If you say so.

 

[Willamena]

Aethism is the denial of all gods existence. If you believe in only 1 god but not the rest you are a theist not an atheist. If your definition differs then you live in your own reality. :yes:

But what of those atheists who firmly believe in the no-god? They don't seem to fit your definition.

 

[dogsgod]

Don't bother, nuances are lost on some people.