Female genital mutilation has been practiced for millennia!So do many humans.I don't think anyone is considering desexing women who scream.
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Do you believe that declawing cats is cruel?
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{Sometimes I'm ashamed to be human.}
apophenia
Well-Known Member
Female genital mutilation has been practiced for millennia!
{Sometimes I'm ashamed to be human.}
Yes, awful and true.
Being human is not your 'fault'. You are not the actions of others. These ideas are a kind of drama best not engaged in IMO.
Shanti
Any links for this?
I've worked with cats for years. I have half a dozen 10+ year old cats in my house right now, and two days ago was interacting with two nineteen y/o cats. I haven't noticed this phenomenon.
Clipping claws of indoor cats is a good thing, but "appreciated" -- I don't think so. Not from the cat's point of view...
I do believe that breeding an animal for domestic use and removing parts of its fingers for convenience is generally a cruel practice in most cases.
Most owners do want their cats to be happy though, so I don't think most people view it as a cruel or intend to be cruel.
Most owners do want their cats to be happy though, so I don't think most people view it as a cruel or intend to be cruel.
That's specifically why I included details and qualifiers in my post.
Draka
Wonder Woman
You haven't met my furry boy. He purrs through his pedicures and has been known to nuzzle me too. He will curl up on my lap and snuggle when done.Clipping claws of indoor cats is a good thing, but "appreciated" -- I don't think so. Not from the cat's point of view...
Secret Chief
nirvana is samsara
Euthanasia because of cats daring to have claws? What selfless animal lovers. Another solution would be euthanasia for the owners.
De-clawing a cat is far less a disturbance than the owning of it. That isn't to say that I don't like pets. I like them, and sometimes pets are a good idea for us. They are good for us. Let us not deceive ourselves into thinking that it is natural for them or what is best for them. Pets are not natural. Playful, childish dogs are not natural, and tiny helpless cats are not natural.
Silly Brick, you don't own cats--cats own you!
Secret Chief
nirvana is samsara
The domestication of the cat could only be successful as it was overall beneficial for both species; control of vermin and easy regular food and shelter.
A cat that is not happy will up sticks and leave, if it is able to. This is well known. Two of our four cats are examples of this occuring.
A cat that is not happy will up sticks and leave, if it is able to. This is well known. Two of our four cats are examples of this occuring.
Sea Monkey
Pickle Juicer!
I have a different opinion. I believe it is not cruel when the cat is a in-door's cat and does not need to defend itself outside. It is cruel though when the cat is a out-door's cat. That is my opinion. I never had any of my cat's declawed I alway's thought it would hurt them too much. I am a friend of animal's btw.
Secret Chief
nirvana is samsara
The term is a misleading euphemism. It is amputation. It is cosmetic mutilation. From Wikipedia:
Onychectomy, popularly known as declawing, is an operation to surgically remove an animal's claws by means of the amputation of all or part of the distal phalanges, or end bones, of the animal's toes. Because the claw develops from germinal tissue within the third phalanx, amputation of the bone is necessary to remove the claw. The terms "onychectomy" (origin: Greek νυξ onycho, nail + κτομή ektome, excision) and "declawing" imply mere claw removal, but a more appropriate description would be phalangectomy, [1]
excision of toe bone.
Onychectomy, popularly known as declawing, is an operation to surgically remove an animal's claws by means of the amputation of all or part of the distal phalanges, or end bones, of the animal's toes. Because the claw develops from germinal tissue within the third phalanx, amputation of the bone is necessary to remove the claw. The terms "onychectomy" (origin: Greek νυξ onycho, nail + κτομή ektome, excision) and "declawing" imply mere claw removal, but a more appropriate description would be phalangectomy, [1]
excision of toe bone.
Don't get me started.
Sea Monkey
Pickle Juicer!
Me either.
I like to think I helped get a mall pet store closed down (I was among a number of people who made complaints against the store), and the animals rescued and relocated to the county SPCA that took over the location. Revealing that just lost me some karma points, but what the hell. NJ SPCAs are no-kill shelters and do their utmost to adopt out.
Sea Monkey
Pickle Juicer!
Kill Shelters are a depressing thing. I hope they all get shut down one day. I am sort of a animal right's activist.
Cats think of it as adoption, but yeah you're right. I bought a leash for a cat once, but we could not come to an agreement over who should be at which end.Crossfire said:Silly Brick, you don't own cats--cats own you!
So there is a contract between humanity and cats? It seems a bit one-sided, but I guess they do owe us for occasionally eating us.SMagog said:
It is even documented scientifically that house-cats can change 'Owners' every five minutes. It doesn't mean that cats are happy with being small. Even so, the smaller the cat the more times it gets to eat and the less likely it is to eat me.