I view it a bit differently. The wicked separate themselves from God, rather than vice versa.
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Do you believe in Divine Justice
- Thread starter Estro Felino
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Well...there are people who want to live as animals, but happy.
and there are people who want to become divine, even at cost of great sacrifice and renounce
Well techniy we are all animals - but that's rather cliché isn't it! As for discussing man becoming "divine" I would need your definition of the term before I could discuss it. Also, how is man becoming "divine" tied to "divine justice"?
You become divine when you are a loving God toward your neighbor. That is: the neighbor trust in God's help. I tell my neighbor: don't expect God's help, but let me help you. I will be your father, your mother, your god.
The same thing that Mary did. She became mother of mankind because she destroyed her selfishness and she decided to love all mankind.
Becoming divine is to give up our selfish desires and to think of the others' welfare first
Mary is the first that understood the value of our human nature. That is, our goal is to become divine.
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Obviously, I do not believe in divine justice. Nor do I truly aprove that belief, either.
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How are you brother ?
Passionate on my fight against the dangers of blind belief. What about you?
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Me, on the will of GodPassionate on my fight against the dangers of blind belief. What about you?
Interesting, most Christian based believers I know would almost call this blasphemous. Ironically I sort of agree though. I'm not sure about being "divine" or "godlike" but altruism is certainly one of many good things to strive for in life. What's more ironic is altruism has been shown to be good for you!
YmirGF
Bodhisattva in Recovery
Then again, if the help one offers is not desired by the one you are attempting to help, it's not likely that they will look kindly on your meddling. If my neighbor said to me, " I will be your father, your mother, your god." they would definitely get a reaction from me, however, I cannot write on RF what that reaction would be. Some people might think it was insensitive, and thus, unacceptable and considerably less than civil. I'm more inclined to promote the idea of self-reliance so that busy-body neighbors, with too much time on their hands, don't assume I need their help.
In regards to the OP, firmly, I do not believe in so-called "divine" justice.
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For me the only real punishment comes from attachment. In choosing to let go of my attachments there is no more punishment.
YmirGF
Bodhisattva in Recovery
Agreed. The only lasting thing that suffering should teach the individual is not to suffer.
roger1440
I do stuff
What is "free will"?
yoda89
On Xtended Vacation
Depends on your view of wicked and your philosophical ideas. Empathy and justice are a relatively new idea compared to that of survival. Therefore if society were to revert empathy and justice would go as well. There also comes into to question is survival of the fittest true justice? Are people who are manipulated by others and benefit wrong in doing so? Those who use organized religion give a sense of knowing to those who believe in it.
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dgirl1986
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Yes this went against everything we were taught when I was a church goer.
Free will is also a juridic term. In law language it is called " full possession of one's faculties" and it is the condition through which you can to go the jail, if you infringe the law.
If free will didn't exist, nobody would go to jail.