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Did God made any mistake ?
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Trailblazer
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God cannot make mistakes because God is Infallible.
Only humans can make mistakes because humans are fallible.
Logic 101.
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
As I tell my atheist friend, everything God created has a purpose.
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
If God could make a mistake, that one would be it!
I took this thread with a grain of salt.
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
Naive as I tend to be, I thought he was serious.
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
Sometimes I think God made a mistake, but that is my mistake to think that.
God's sepherim didn't line up properly.
When God created the vault in the sky he did not say it was good but that it was so... later that water flooded the earth and only Noah and a few survived.
God said, "Let there be fruit tree yielding fruit," but the trees didn't have fruit bark like a licorice tree, so that was a mistake.
If you mean the one-god of classical monotheism, that god by definition is perfect and infallible. Therefore, the god of classical monotheism does not make mistakes. Humans, however, will project mistakes onto that god.
You mean what I would have done different than God?
I would have made me smarter, so I don't make so many mistakes.
epronovost
Well-Known Member
I don't remember making that choice. Was it also the choice of all animals too? My dog doesn't want to suffer and it will shy away from danger and pain as much as possible it would seem my dog didn't made this choice either. Could it even understand the ramification of such choices? I doubt it, it's ability to think in terms of future are practically null.
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
Humans did not make the choice to exist and neither did animals.
The best you can say is that humans made a choice to have children, but since that is how God designed it, can you really blame humans? And you certainly cannot blame animals for procreating because they do so by instinct, not by choice.
It is all on God. It logically follows that all of suffering of humans that is not due to a free will choice humans make is on God and that all suffering of animals that is not due to a free will choice humans make is on God.
I would have made a good atheist, if I did not believe in God, because the logic is really inescapable.
Koldo
Outstanding Member
What doesn't exist can not make mistakes.
Spirit of Light
Be who ever you want
Can you prove a God does not exist? Or is it only your opinion that God can not exist because you personally have not Seen, felt or heard a God?
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
That's true, logically speaking.
epronovost
Well-Known Member
How is that pertinent? If God doesn't exist it's absolutely correct to say it cannot make any mistakes.
Spirit of Light
Be who ever you want
It was only a question.
Koldo
Outstanding Member
I can prove God doesn't exist:
1) By definition, God is an omnipotent, omniscient and omnibenevolent being.
2) If evil exists, God doesn't.
3) Evil exists.
4) Therefore, God doesn't exist.
You go to the heart of the problem.
A being with no heart, organs or reproduction or 'anything like that' is either a mechanical being or an imaginary one.
If God has objective existence, exists independently of any imagining of [him] then as I said [he]'s a kind of real something, either a computer or an animal.
I think it's highly unlikely that God has objective existence, for the simple reason that no description of God exists as a real being. Or to put that another way with my usual example, I can tell whether or not this keyboard I'm typing on is a rabbit, a rhododendron, a rock, light in the red band (and it's none of those). But there's no test that will tell me whether it's God or not.
And if God isn't real, doesn't have objective existence, then the only thing God can be is conceptual, something imagined, a abstraction in an individual brain representing certain ideas and feelings.