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Discussion in 'General Debates' started by Fool, Aug 24, 2019.

  1. Fool

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    this could be true; especially if the discussion is riddled with subjective statements that aren't necessarily indicative of the overall situation.


    case in point:

    being in the military doesn't make you a better/worse person

    vs

    being in the military makes you a better or worse person based on posters opinion.

    the first statement is a discussion
    the second is a subjective debate


    so then why allow subjective statements in a discussion?
    isn't the discussion already distorted when subjective statements are made vs using research, investigative information? unbiased facts?
     
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    please explain clarification of opinions?
     
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    i'm confused even more so now but it was funny

    :confused:
     
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    that's what i'm after. a definition of difference; so that i can understand where to post based on the difference.
     
  5. Howard Is

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    A debate involves a proposition which is analysed and argued by, usually, two opposing sides. It is adversarial in nature.

    A discussion has a subject matter open for any kind of interpretation or general comment, not necessarily proofs and refutations. It is social in nature. Or it used to be, before everyone went aggressively insane.

    We could discuss that idea, meaning generally ruminate and shoot the breeze, or we could take sides and debate whether everyone has actually gone aggressively insane in recent decades, or whether I’m just full of ****.

    Does that help ?
     
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    this would be more like theory and conjecture?

    this would be more like personal opinion and subjective comments?
     
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    A debate...
    More like presenting and refuting evidence for the proposition. In a debate, each side is certain it has the correct view.

    A discussion...
    Yes. Not rigorous. Exploratory. Not adversarial. Those taking part may be just curious or have a personal interest in the subject.

    Discussions don’t have winners. Debates do. Everyone thinks they won of course. There are organised debates in schools and public speaking organisations for example. That is a team thing, maybe three or four per side. Each side takes turns presenting a speaker, until everyone has spoken, and at the end a winning team is declared.

    There are ‘political debates’ on TV too. Once again, it is about presenting and refuting evidence, not just talking in an unstructured way like a discussion.
     
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    I can only do it by example

    So what is your religion? I'm a Catholic. What made you a catholic? My parents. There is no digging no pressing or attack. Allowing the person to respond as they feel without challenging their belief. You are just gathering information about the person's involved out of interest in that person.
     
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    facts are always biased in one way or another ;p imo
     
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    so after witnessing a car wreck, the statement, "I saw a traffic accident, or car wreck" would be biased to you?

    how can an observed event, experience be biased unless it is qualified with emotional labels?
     
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    thank you
     
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    Yeah. Those were the days. :(
     
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    It may not be biast for the viewer but as soon as they tell some one it becomes biast (because it is what they saw - not the other.)
    Does that make sence?
     
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