Christians who oppose homosexuality

[LittleNipper]

"Sin makes for all sexual disfunction"

Homosexuality is not a sexual dysfunction.

"SATAN was the author of sin"

Humans alone are the author of sin. I mean just look all the nonsense you're making up in this thread.

Satan is alive and well. He still points the finger and says, "GUILTY." Homosexuality cannot, will not and never has produced babies. THAT IS A DISFUNCTION.

 

[LittleNipper]

I like that however I don't agree.... the will of angels is debateable...... if anything angels are free to follow their heart.

Free will to me is the ability to choose that which you know is wrong..... angels can't choose what is wrong but they are free to follow their heart.

Show me the scripture reference, chapter and verse.

 

[Petriebird]

Satan is alive and well. He still points the finger and says, "GUILTY." Homosexuality cannot, will not and never has produced babies. THAT IS A DISFUNCTION.

Your right.... now are you going to listen to him speak in black and white? Or are you going to ignore the specifics and let love take over?

Who really cares in the end.... just love and let god take it all over

 

[Jeremiah]

GOD created a perfect angel with free will. HE never did that again and the angels that didn't FALL with Lucifer are now all sealed. The very same will happen to every human that dies and goes to heaven.

Perfection can not be improved upon and so if God needed to change the angle design later that would mean the first prototype was not prefect, which of course would mean God made a mistake.

Also if it was such a perfect angel then how the heck did it go so bad? And does God have no foresight, did he not realize that Lucifer would turn out so bad?

 

[Petriebird]

Show be the scripture reference, chapter and verse.

Oh I can't, this is all just from thinking about angels, free will spirits etc etc.... the bible doesn't focus on them so it's more of a theory

 

[Autodidact]

Satan is alive and well. He still points the finger and says, "GUILTY." Homosexuality cannot, will not and never has produced babies. THAT IS A DISFUNCTION.

Well, neither does riding bicycles or typing on your computer.

The fact that homosexuality doesn't produce babies is a good thing. It means that any child borne to a gay person is wanted and planned for. The many unwanted, uncared for, abused and neglected children in the world are all born to irresponsible heterosexuals as a result of their dysfunctional sexuality.

 

[Autodidact]

Sexual desire can however be controlled through conscious decisions.... when you are sitting around doing nothing bored and get an urge.... do you turn to porn or do you fight the temptation.

Poison tastes good so might as well eat it, I have no choice.

The fact that you see physical love as poison is just so sad. It's not--it's a good thing. All love is good, including sexual love.

 

[Erebus]

Satan is alive and well. He still points the finger and says, "GUILTY." Homosexuality cannot, will not and never has produced babies. THAT IS A DISFUNCTION.

The world is already overpopulated, homosexuality is actually beneficial to humanity.

 

[Wannabe Yogi]

Satan is alive and well. He still points the finger and says, "GUILTY." Homosexuality cannot, will not and never has produced babies. THAT IS A DISFUNCTION.

So the questions are:

- Is sex only for reproduction?
-Are straight people who like oral sex difunctional?
-Do you agree with Christ that it is just better not to have anytype of sex?

 

[Petriebird]

Well, neither does riding bicycles or typing on your computer.

The fact that homosexuality doesn't produce babies is a good thing. It means that any child borne to a gay person is wanted and planned for. The many unwanted, uncared for, abused and neglected children in the world are all born to irresponsible heterosexuals as a result of their dysfunctional sexuality.

LOL thats pretty funny

You bring up some good debateable points about homosexuals and raising children. In the end I honestly don't know what to think, the few homosexuals I've known were irresponsible and as I have known them would not make good parents. Saying bad parents are better then no parents..... well who knows on that one really.... kind of splitting hairs.

Now I will give you this.... that even people who would currently make bad parents can have god enter their lives and become good parents..... and i'm not saying become religious.... god is with all men and working with all men and if it is his will to work over two irresponsible people to make them parents..... then he can do it... gay or not. Will he.... who knows

 

[Petriebird]

The fact that you see physical love as poison is just so sad. It's not--it's a good thing. All love is good, including sexual love.

I don't see physical love as poison.... I'm sorry if it sounded like I made that point.

The bible even says that it is not wrong for a married man and a woman to be involved with one another sexualy.... however the bible does state that it is due to the weakness of their flesh. And when I read that I see weakness.... not an out to do what I want.

Trust me.... it's not easy for me to try and uphold this belief..... it's very hard and i'm working on it

 

[Jeremiah]

Satan is alive and well. He still points the finger and says, "GUILTY." Homosexuality cannot, will not and never has produced babies. THAT IS A DISFUNCTION.

Me not having kids is way more beneficial to society then someone like you having kids. And by your standards, this would mean that your sexuality and marriage is the real dysfunction here.

 

[Petriebird]

So the questions are:

- Is sex only for reproduction?
-Are straight people who like oral sex difunctional?
-Do you agree with Christ that it is just better not to have anytype of sex?

-In a perfect world sex is only for child bearing.... beyond that you are a parent and sexuality is focusing on yourself rather then the welfare of your children. Personaly I would rather make the sacrifice of giving up all sexuality as proof that my children are more important than I am.... at all times and in all ways.

-who doesn't like oral sex....? The real question here is what is important to you

-Is it better? who knows.... all I know is that I'm a human and I'm not that strong.... plus I want children. I do know that there are spirits and purity that can be found through the removal of such things and though I admire such a thing.... simply put i'm not that strong of a person..... given years of practice and seeking perhaps I could be that strong.

 

[Petriebird]

Me not having kids is way more beneficial to society then someone like you having kids. And by your standards, this would mean that your sexuality and marriage is the real dysfunction here.

Why are you so angry?

 

[Jeremiah]

I mean really, a marriage based entirely around sex and making babies, that is the dysfunction.

 

[Autodidact]

LOL thats pretty funny

You bring up some good debateable points about homosexuals and raising children. In the end I honestly don't know what to think, the few homosexuals I've known were irresponsible and as I have known them would not make good parents.

I have 3 children. The oldest is 22 and an honor student at Pomona College. She wants to work in the non-profit sector reducing poverty and helping development in the third world. The youngest was neglected by her irresponsible heterosexual parents, and the county asked us to care for her as we would provide a more stable and caring home. Do you really want to call me a bad parent? Do you know any gay or lesbian parents personally?

Saying bad parents are better then no parents..... well who knows on that one really.... kind of splitting hairs.

Didn't anyone ever tell you that it's wrong to spread lies and prejudice about other groups of people?

Now I will give you this.... that even people who would currently make bad parents can have god enter their lives and become good parents..... and i'm not saying become religious.... god is with all men and working with all men and if it is his will to work over two irresponsible people to make them parents..... then he can do it... gay or not. Will he.... who knows

I have been a responsible parent for 22 years. All the gay and lesbian parents I know are responsible, caring, and doing a heckuva job. I know a wonderful gay man, a hospice chaplain, who has provided a caring home for two boys neglected and abused by their irresponsible heterosexual parents. He deserves a medal, and your personal thanks for helping society deal with this heterosexual problem.

Heterosexuals are the problem; homosexuals are part of the solution. Are you? And no, it's not funny.

 

[Jeremiah]

Why are you so angry?

Because you have angry eyes.

 

[Autodidact]

I don't see physical love as poison.... I'm sorry if it sounded like I made that point.

You did.

The bible even says that it is not wrong for a man and a woman to be involved with one another sexualy.... however the bible does state that it is due to the weakness of their flesh. And when I read that I see weakness.... not an out to do what I want.

Well, the Bible is wrong then.

Trust me.... it's not easy for me to try and uphold this belief..... it's very hard and i'm working on it

Let it go; it's wrong. As I said, all love is good. Really.

 

[Autodidact]

Why are you so angry?

Wait--you call us dysfunctional, and that's fine, but when he calls you dysfunctional, you want to know why he's so angry? Oh, I don't know, maybe it's because of your double-standard? Here's something every Christian should learn:

"Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them."

 

[Father Heathen]

Sexual desire can however be controlled through conscious decisions.... when you are sitting around doing nothing bored and get an urge.... do you turn to porn or do you fight the temptation.

Poison tastes good so might as well eat it, I have no choice.

Your religion is far, far more poisonous than homosexuality is.