Willowmina
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Hei guys, has this any connection to what we've been discussing? :
Ahmahaa.org
Ahmahaa.org
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Is there a time when we can leave religious books and intellectual knowledge aside?
Is there a time when we can leave religious books and intellectual knowledge aside?
Can we leave religious books and intellectual knowledge aside?
Hei guys, has this any connection to what we've been discussing? :
Ahmahaa.org
Is there a time when we can leave religious books and intellectual knowledge aside?
Thanks for the link. The basic idea seems to be to learn a sort of spontaneous expression so that people get in better touch with their own true feelings and goals.
I see much merit in the idea. People do indeed often lose touch with themselves due to an excess of social pressures and fears.
Yes, I also get out something from this website. They seem to be genuine.Thanks for the link. The basic idea seems to be to learn a sort of spontaneous expression so that people get in better touch with their own true feelings and goals.
I see much merit in the idea. People do indeed often lose touch with themselves due to an excess of social pressures and fears.
from what i read of the site it seems like a practice that can be utilized to very different degrees and still remain effective.
i dont see why taking some time out from outside influence of dogma, politics, cultural pressures, etc. would be a bad thing, provided the decisions and revelations that resulted were scrutinized with rationality.
and as far as the communication techniques involved, i'd use them with caution. language is a dominant form of communication for a reason.
if we're talking about making this a constant sort of lifestyle though, i dont think i can dig it.
Yes we can leave it all behind now. We are smart enough where no one has to take baby steps and everyone can walk on their own two feet.Is there a time when we can leave religious books and intellectual knowledge aside?
a) Yes I agree but aren't there all sorts of rational systems?
b) of course there is a reason for everything even when we don't know this, but don't we try to rationalize almost anything?
c) as far as i understand, they don't advocate this as a constant sort of lifestyle. They use it only when communication gets too much out of hand. We in the West know our communication issues and the results of it, don't we?
What I understand, they make reason submissive to the community/group culture.
Isn't this a relevant approach that many of us could learn from?
i'm sure it can be a useful tool in the right contexts. but i wouldn't elevate it's effectiveness over intellectual responsibility in every situation.
Yes, I also get out something from this website. They seem to be genuine.
I see the Ahmahaa as a heart-to-heart communication approach, not induced mainly by our intellect. They speak about community as a vital factor.
They say we are over stimulated by our own intellect, our fragmented mind and emotions and the virtual world?
Gosh, all communications are intellectual by their very nature. I wonder why so many people think otherwise.
a) wow, wow are all communications intellectual by their very nature?!
Basically, it is a form of communication that is blessed by so much context (body language, example through behavior, known past story) that words end up being useless (or worse) to complement it."I fully agree about the convenience of community-oriented communications, however. Have you heard of "silent transmission"?"
b) I know there are all sorts of " silent transmissions" . How do you define or what does "silent transmission" mean to you?
East, like everywhere else, has all kinds of thoughts. It seems to me, however, that the dominant stance would be that one must have clarity of values and goals. In fact, of the Noble Eightfold Path at least three (IMO four, since I include Right View) of the eight means are very much mental in nature."Fragmented, yes. "Over stimulated by our own intellect"? Hardly. That is an urban legend as far as I can tell."
c) is it an urban legend? What do the eastern tradition say about this and for that matter Buddhism?
what do you mean by 'intellectual responsibility'?
what are supposed things - what are actual things? Where is the line of demarcation in our own life or elsewere between these apparent two different things ? How far should we take a skeptic attitude? What is this 'reality' as a foundation?intellectual responsibility meaning the active weighing of supposed things against actual things. wonder is never complete without skepticism. one can feel free to engage in whatever kinds of practices s/he wants in order to know hirself, however it's the responsibility of the individual to use reality as a foundation.
what are supposed things - what are actual things? Where is the line of demarcation in our own life or elsewere between these apparent two different things ? How far should we take a skeptic attitude? What is this 'reality' as a foundation?
I don't know if the common Hindu or Buddhist worshiper reads the respective scriptures on regular basis, but Hinduism without its major scriptures has nothing to lean on, while the Buddhist religion holds one of the biggest scriptural libraries in known religions.