Notanumber
A Free Man
It has already happened and needs to be corrected. That is all.
I am surprised that Boris has retained that Cox fellow after what he did to Tommy.
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Boris Johnson - let's see how he and his government performs....
- Thread starter Altfish
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It has already happened and needs to be corrected. That is all.
I am surprised that Boris has retained that Cox fellow after what he did to Tommy.
Altfish
Veteran Member
What has already happened?
Who is this Cox you refer to?
Notanumber
A Free Man
Read all about it.
UKIP National Executive Council Are Shafting Gerard Batten
Geoffrey Cox is the man who persecuted Tommy Robinson on trumped up charges and achieved the distinction of creating a political prisoner in England.
ratiocinator
Lightly seared on the reality grill.
Don't be silly. Stephen Yaxley-Lennon ("Tommy Robinson") was convicted in a court of law because he broke the law. He got what he richly deserved - it wasn't even his first offence (source).
Altfish
Veteran Member
What has any of this got to do with this thread????
Pending which blockbuster piece of news exactly?
Hopefully, she would be smart and sane enough not to promise both to avoid and to materialize a No Deal Brexit and a border in Ireland.
Boris Johnson fails at that, but then again he is not someone to let the truth stop his speech under the best of circunstances.
Altfish
Veteran Member
Let's look at another appointment, Dominic Cummings and a quote of his from 2017, "Tory MPs largely do not care about these poorer people. They don’t care about the NHS."
Johnson adviser said Tories do not care about poor people or NHS
Johnson adviser said Tories do not care about poor people or NHS
Altfish
Veteran Member
A quiz for you lucky people...
Who in December 2011 said this...
"We're not just a fully paid-up member of the EU, which we will remain whether, whether or not we are in the fiscal union or 'FU' as it's called or whether, or whether, or whether we are relegated to the second tier of the fiscal union, or 'FU' 2 as it's called.
We're not only, we're not only, we're not only, we are, we will remain a paid up, a paid up and valued, participating member of the single market that is, that is, under no circumstances in my view will a British government adjust that position"
Who in December 2011 said this...
"We're not just a fully paid-up member of the EU, which we will remain whether, whether or not we are in the fiscal union or 'FU' as it's called or whether, or whether, or whether we are relegated to the second tier of the fiscal union, or 'FU' 2 as it's called.
We're not only, we're not only, we're not only, we are, we will remain a paid up, a paid up and valued, participating member of the single market that is, that is, under no circumstances in my view will a British government adjust that position"
Notanumber
A Free Man
And now the answer ...
Jeff has his doubts about Boris as well as you.
He has a history of flip-flopping, but he is our best hope at this stage with Nigel as our backstop.
Notanumber
A Free Man
And your point is?
Altfish
Veteran Member
They are claiming that No Deal Brexit is "The Will of the People" it isn't now and wasn't back in 2016.
Notanumber
A Free Man
Would you buy or sell your house by telling the other party that you will not walk away no matter what they offer you?
ratiocinator
Lightly seared on the reality grill.
Threatening the EU with no deal is a bit like pointing a gun at our own head and saying "if you don't give us what we want, we'll shoot and you might get blood on your shirt!"
(Not original but I'm not sure where I heard it)
Oh and is this insane, self-destructive policy worth £6bn (and rising) - plus the cost of an actual no deal, which would make that look like peanuts, if the EU don't fall for it?
Notanumber
A Free Man
Democracy is worth the world.
ratiocinator
Lightly seared on the reality grill.
Then we need another referendum to determine if people want the reality of the Brexit options now on offer, rather than the make-believe Brexit that was offered to them in 2016, or to stay in.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Being the naughty girl she is , she probably deserves a spanking.
Altfish
Veteran Member
But I knew that in 2016; the Remainers were saying this is what would happen. Leavers were using the "Project Fear" mantra; it is now coming to pass. The Remainers, as usual, are proving to be correct.