dyanaprajna2011
Dharmapala
Faith is a dangerous thing when not tempered and tested by logic and reason. If it's not, you get things like radical Islam, Waco, Jonesboro, and Christian science members refusing to be treated by doctors.
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Nobody has shown my beliefs to be false to my satisfaction.Dont you think its dangerous to hold beliefs you have been shown to be false with logic, reason and knowledge??? You then are in a debate section and trying to say, you believe 2 + 1 = 7 no matte how many times we show you the answer is 3
Nobody has shown my beliefs to be false to my satisfaction.
Nope. With origins science 'facts' come and go with every new breeze.yes I did, when confronted with facts you pull out the faith card.
Let me ask you a serious Question, If we showed you fact on the subject showing there was no flood would you change your belief?????????????????????????????????????????????????
I've examined my beliefs, while you may find them irrational, I find them wonderful and true.And you haven't examined the fact that you may be holding your beliefs irrationally?
As a scientist I question my beliefs on a daily basis.
The ones that don't stand, I try to discard.
I've examined my beliefs, while you may find them irrational, I find them wonderful and true.
Nope. With origins science 'facts' come and go with every new breeze.
Nobody has shown my beliefs to be false to my satisfaction.
Mostly I just keep answering posts like this one.That's all well and good. But this is a website to debate religious topics. If you're not going to debate, and just keep preaching, it will be unfruitful, and not what this site was designed for.
No.So are you saying no matter what evidence we show, no matter how positive and known it is you wil not accept anything?????
I'm not dogmatic about 4200 years, but I do believe the Deluge occurred roughly in that time frame. I've studied some world history, I don't really find any major problems with it and the Bible.by the way, 4200 years ago is not origin science at all its VERY WELL KNOWN HISTORY due to a little thing called writing
No, I actually have looked at much of that on my own. While I am not a big debater and I'm not an expert in the field of origins or history, I do study and try to find the truth. There are other subjects I also do this with and I have found that time constrains me greatly and sorting through tons of information and misinformation and EVERYONE has biases, and attempting to verify which is true is a huge endeavor that I prefer to do on my own time. We all still have a whole lot to learn on origins and I enjoy trying to learn. I don't enjoy arguing so much, which is why I prefer for the most part to simply share my faith and beliefs more than trying to prove mine or disprove others. And when people paste a huge post and say they've proven their position, I'm usually just happy for them that they've satisfied their own truths. Maybe someone will come along that likes to get into origins science debates with you all. I'm still learning what everyone else believes about it, but mostly people just get mad and so its all pretty fruitless. Ok, rambled on enough. Thanks.isnt that because you flat refuse to learn or even look at information that might appose your faith????
Mostly I just keep answering posts like this one.
No.
I'm not dogmatic about 4200 years, but I do believe the Deluge occurred roughly in that time frame. I've studied some world history, I don't really find any major problems with it and the Bible.
No, I actually have looked at much of that on my own. While I am not a big debater and I'm not an expert in the field of origins or history, I do study and try to find the truth. There are other subjects I also do this with and I have found that time constrains me greatly and sorting through tons of information and misinformation and EVERYONE has biases, and attempting to verify which is true is a huge endeavor that I prefer to do on my own time. We all still have a whole lot to learn on origins and I enjoy trying to learn. I don't enjoy arguing so much, which is why I prefer for the most part to simply share my faith and beliefs more than trying to prove mine or disprove others. And when people paste a huge post and say they've proven their position, I'm usually just happy for them that they've satisfied their own truths. Maybe someone will come along that likes to get into origins science debates with you all. I'm still learning what everyone else believes about it, but mostly people just get mad and so its all pretty fruitless. Ok, rambled on enough. Thanks.
What some consider 'fact', I consider fiction. When someone says the earth is so many billions of years old (the number changes a lot), I tend to question their 'findings'. Now you may be quite convinced, but I am not. I am happy for those who believe they have found the facts to back their position, please pardon me for having my own thoughts about those same 'facts'.Some things that have been shown to you aren't beliefs, but simple facts. Why did you deny those?
javajo said:I don't enjoy arguing so much, which is why I prefer for the most part to simply share my faith and beliefs more than trying to prove mine or disprove others.
I do believe the Deluge occurred roughly in that time frame.
No, I actually have looked at much of that on my own.
and I'm not an expert in the field of origins or history
sorting through tons of information and misinformation and EVERYONE has biases
and attempting to verify which is true is a huge endeavor that I prefer to do on my own time
We all still have a whole lot to learn on origins and I enjoy trying to learn
And when people paste a huge post and say they've proven their position, I'm usually just happy for them that they've satisfied their own truths
Maybe someone will come along that likes to get into origins science debates with you all.
I'm still learning what everyone else believes about it
but mostly people just get mad and so its all pretty fruitless
No, I actually have looked at much of that on my own.
What some consider 'fact', I consider fiction. When someone says the earth is so many billions of years old (the number changes a lot), I tend to question their 'findings'. Now you may be quite convinced, but I am not. I am happy for those who believe they have found the facts to back their position, please pardon me for having my own thoughts about those same 'facts'.
There is some, though its not conclusive.
There are pictures taken by pilots and satelites and locals tell stories of what could be the Ark on the Mountains of Ararat. Turkey is not too cooperative.
Also, the Lord Jesus Christ spoke of Noah and his days as well as did Peter.
Depends on who you ask.
Or vice-versa.
I agree, except when we are piecing together history as it contains references to real kings and kingdoms and events in history.
While it does contain some scientifically accurate statements and medical practices the world did not adapt until the 1800's (like surgeons washing their hands between patients
such as the earth is round, Isaiah 40:22, it is suspended on nothing
hydrologic cycle
Sorry, there are just too many of you to be able to give an adequate response. I respect everyone's beliefs and I'll leave you to them. I wish you all well.
javajo said:Sorry, there are just too many of you to be able to give an adequate response.