Becoming less extreme because of Islam/sufism and Baha'i faith

[Spirit of Light]

Some people see Islam, Sufism and Baha'i as extreme and horrible. Even evil hateful and discusting.

But nobody talk about when those religions are the cause of a change to the better. Nobody talks about when a person find truth though those teachings, and become a better person with less hate, less judgment, less wish to harm self or others.

And you know why? Because they only focus on the extremists who damage the world, they forgetting to look at episodes that save people through the same religions they only see as hate and evil.

 

[Sedim Haba]

I do not see Baha'i as extremist despite my previous posts, as I do not know if they were the aggressors in this. I only know I was pursued. They damaged , indeed. I only hope that this was not the case. I only know what was revealed to me , the ultimate hate that I can't even relate. The end of all.

 

[Twilight Hue]

I suppose if one went to a theocracy say Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Iran, Iraq, Syria etc.
That would be a change for the better?

 

[Spirit of Light]

I suppose if one went to a theocracy say Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Iran, Iraq, Syria etc.
That would be a change for the better?

The OP speak about individual experience through the mentioned religions. You jump directly toward what OP said most critiques do. Only seeing the worsed of people.

I had a suicide attempt last month, and you know what.....it was my belief in Baha'i that saved me.
And you know why I did the attempt? Because of someone in RF.

 

[danieldemol]

Some people see Islam, Sufism and Baha'i as extreme and horrible. Even evil hateful and discusting.

But nobody talk about when those religions are the cause of a change to the better. Nobody talks about when a person find truth though those teachings, and become a better person with less hate, less judgment, less wish to harm self or others.

And you know why? Because they only focus on the extremists who damage the world, they forgetting to look at episodes that save people through the same religions they only see as hate and evil.

All I can really say is don't stop halfway down the hill of extremism, better to get of it entirely and denounce it.

In my opinion.

 

[Spirit of Light]

All I can really say is don't stop halfway down the hill of extremism, better to get of it entirely and denounce it.

In my opinion.

But Baha'i is a direct cause i am alive today. You think i will just toss it away?

 

[danieldemol]

But Baha'i is a direct cause i am alive today. You think i will just toss it away?

Perhaps not, but be on the lookout for a better way that will also keep you alive.

You never know, you might find one and it doesn't hurt to look right?

In my opinion.

 

[Aupmanyav]

"Becoming less extreme because of Islam/sufism and Baha'i faith.": Does that mean not caring about evidence?

 

[Spirit of Light]

Perhaps not, but be on the lookout for a better way that will also keep you alive.

You never know, you might find one and it doesn't hurt to look right?

In my opinion.

I found what I been looking for in Baha'i, yes I found bits in other religions too, but for me Baha'i show me a way through the difficult times I live in now.

I see the other Baha'i members here as friends who are good in guidance without judgment when I step wrong.

I don't get that support through the critiques here in RF

 

[danieldemol]

I found what I been looking for in Baha'i, yes I found bits in other religions too, but for me Baha'i show me a way through the difficult times I live in now.

I see the other Baha'i members here as friends who are good in guidance without judgment when I step wrong.

I don't get that support through the critiques here in RF

Ok, so pretend I'm Hitler.

How do you go about guiding me without judging me?

Doesn't the fact you think i need guidance imply that you have already judged me?

In my opinion.

 

[Spirit of Light]

Ok, so pretend I'm Hitler.

How do you go about guiding me without judging me?

Doesn't the fact you think i need guidance imply that you have already judged me?

In my opinion.

I didn't speak about others. I see Baha'i as right for my life, if it isn't right for others, that is ip to them.

Why bring up Hitler who has been dead for nearly 80 years?

 

[danieldemol]

I didn't speak about others. I see Baha'i as right for my life, if it isn't right for others, that is ip to them.

Why bring up Hitler who has been dead for nearly 80 years?

Because you appear to have said you need guidance without judgement, so I was taking someone I assumed we all thought needed guidance (Hitler), then asking you to demonstrate how to guide someone without judging them.

In my opinion.

 

[Spirit of Light]

Because you appear to have said you need guidance without judgement, so I was taking someone I assumed we all thought needed guidance (Hitler), then asking you to demonstrate how to guide someone without judging them.

In my opinion.

WOW.

All i said was, i need guidance from likeminded people who understand the same way of seeking i been through.
That means I seek guidance from @Trailblazer
@TransmutingSoul
@Dawnofhope

And other Baha'is in RF.

 

[TransmutingSoul]

I found what I been looking for in Baha'i, yes I found bits in other religions too, but for me Baha'i show me a way through the difficult times I live in now.

I see the other Baha'i members here as friends who are good in guidance without judgment when I step wrong.

I don't get that support through the critiques here in RF

I have found that Faith is always tested. The key is, that prayer is indeed a powerful elixir to our inner demons.

Some will always attempt to plant seeds of doubt, I have found this is a bounty, it enables to grow in our resolve to be a better person.

Regards Tony

 

[Spirit of Light]

I have found that Faith is always tested. The key is, that prayer is indeed a powerful elixir to our inner demons.

Some will always attempt to plant seeds of doubt, I have found this is a bounty, it enables to grow in our resolve to be a better person.

Regards Tony

Very true

 

[TransmutingSoul]

WOW.

All i said was, i need guidance from likeminded people who understand the same way of seeking i been through.
That means I seek guidance from @Trailblazer
@TransmutingSoul
@Dawnofhope

And other Baha'is in RF.

We will always help if we can Seeker of White Light. That is what life is about, we are here to encourage and help each other grow.

Regards Tony

 

[TransmutingSoul]

How do you go about guiding me without judging me?

The story of the man in Akka that despised Abdul'baha is that example.

"When the Master came to Akka there lived there a certain man from Afghanistan, an austere and rigid Mussulman (Muslim). To him the Master was a heretic. He felt and nourished a great enmity toward the Master, and roused up others against him. When opportunity offered in gatherings of the people, as in the mosque, he denounced him with bitter words.

“This man,” he said to all, “is an imposter. Why do you speak to him? Why do you have dealings with him?” And when he passed the Master on the street he was careful to hold his robe before his face that his sight might not be defiled.

Thus did this Afghan. The Master, however, did thus: the Afghan was poor and lived in a mosque; he was frequently in need of food and clothing. The Master sent him both. These he accepted, but without thanks. He fell sick. The Master took him a physician, food, medicine, money. These, also, he accepted, but as he held out one hand that the physician might take his pulse, with the other he held his cloak before his face that he might not look upon the Master.

For twenty-four years the Master continued his kindnesses and the Afghan persisted in his enmity. Then at last one day the Afghan came to the Master’s door, and fell down, penitent and weeping, at his feet.

“Forgive me, sir!” he cried. “For twenty-four years I have done evil to you, for twenty-four years you have done good to me. Now I know that I have been in the wrong.”

The Master bade him rise and they became friends. – Myron Phelps, The Master in Akka, pp. 8-10

Regards Tony

 

[Spirit of Light]

We will always help if we can Seeker of White Light. That is what life is about, we are here to encourage and help each other grow.

Regards Tony

I wish everyone was like you Tony.

 

[Guitar's Cry]

Life is complex and often very difficult to manage. I am glad people find ways to manage their own without interfering with others.

 

[SalixIncendium]

Some people see Islam, Sufism and Baha'i as extreme and horrible. Even evil hateful and discusting.

I'm not sure your premise is correct. I have never seen or heard anyone describe Sufism or Baha'i as extreme, horrible, hateful, or disgusting.