It's what made America great. Starving masses, willing to take any job, easily replaceable should they get injured or out of line.They're the Backbone of American industry -- or were, till we discovered the Mexicans, Vietnamese, Chinese, &al.
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Atheists are more pro-life than Christians
- Thread starter Altfish
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Wildswanderer
Veteran Member
That's one of the most ridiculous statements ever...
Wildswanderer
Veteran Member
Lol, I bet you will find way more religious people giving to charities and working for them.
Altfish
Veteran Member
Are you hard of thinking? Why is the statement ridiculous?
Let us take a scenario ... a 14-year old girl raped by her uncle has discovered she is pregnant. I believe from all points of view the best option is a termination.
Take another scenario ... a 28-year old woman has a one night fling and discovers she is pregnant. In this case I don't believe a termination is the best option, other alternatives should be considered, such as bringing up the child, adoption and that termination is an absolute final option.
All I am asking is that abortion is left on the table as an option. NOT that it is first choice
ImmortalFlame
Woke gremlin
You'll also find way more religious people petitioning governments to roll back human rights, attacking minority groups, and committing acts of terrorism.
But I guess charity is the only measure we have for morality.
74x12
Well-Known Member
ImmortalFlame
Woke gremlin
Ahhh, so you didn't mean to say that having Universal healthcare and no state murder made a country not advanced, what you actually meant to say is that, if an advanced country is a country with Universal healthcare and no atate murder, then there are NO advanced countries, because they all commit state murder (and possibly restrict healthcare)?
If so, you could have just said that.
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Altfish
Veteran Member
Explain what you meant then.
ImmortalFlame
Woke gremlin
I think I figured it out. I think what they meant to write was "Then there are no advanced countries", since all countries commit state murder to some extent.
BilliardsBall
Veteran Member
Oh I do! I was Assistant Director of a Crisis Pregnancy Center.
BilliardsBall
Veteran Member
I look for agreement with those I debate, unfortunately, I cannot agree.
Capital PUNISHMENT -- expected outcome from unjust acts
Abortion of INNOCENTS -- life extinguished for those who've done nothing wrong
Pro-self defense is pro-life....pro-my-life, not that of assailants.Not only that, in the US, most of the Christians want everyone to have GUNS.
So that's pretty pro-death, basically.
Wildswanderer
Veteran Member
No, but it's one of the best measurements of who really cares and who just wants to push an agenda.
Wildswanderer
Veteran Member
You are ok with murdering millions of babies who did nothing to deserve it for the sake of convenience to save the feelings of the "little girl raped" scenario which is not why the vast majority of abortions happen.
I don't see that as a viable solution.
Altfish
Veteran Member
That is very worrying.
ImmortalFlame
Woke gremlin
Rather than being willing to kill people or petitioning governments to roll back civil rights?
I'm pretty sure giving to charity is not a better measure of moral fortitude than whether or not you act to actually harm people.
Altfish
Veteran Member
Go back and re-read all my posts. How often do I have to say it
ABORTION SHOULD ALWAYS BE THE LAST RESORT.
OK, do you understand now? I am not promoting abortion, just not removing it as an option.
ImmortalFlame
Woke gremlin
So you believe the state has the right to determine who deserves to die, and the right to force women to give birth against their will.
ImmortalFlame
Woke gremlin
Do you believe anybody has the right to use of your organs or body, other than yourself?
Wildswanderer
Veteran Member
Who wants to kill people or roll back civil rights?