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Featured Atheism and arrogance

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by Piculet, Aug 1, 2020.

  1. Mock Turtle

    Mock Turtle Silent Generation - so don't expect much
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    Well arrogance isn't confined to the religious, I am well aware of that, but as per my religion tag, religion often produces such more readily - especially when one is commanded to believe, have faith, and often not question any particular doctrine.
     
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  2. Mock Turtle

    Mock Turtle Silent Generation - so don't expect much
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    So I suppose the Taliban, ISIS, Evangelicals in the USA, etc. are not going by what was written in their particular texts - and taking it literally - and why we have so many different belief systems? It's like what, thousands of years, for change to occur, and the consequences of such (persecution), all because - it is written! This is the main issue with religions taking on the role of being our moral arbiters - and apparently based on some supernatural phenomena - they are just not open to rational debate/argument over such things - because - it is written. For all their benefits, they are often as much a drag on our progress.
     
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    I will second that as I am dealing with some such religious people right now on another forum.
    Some people are too haughty to even SEE that they are haughty and they use scriptures to support their haughtiness.. It's sad. :(

    But it is not the religion that is the problem, it is the people IN the religion. It has always been that way.
     
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    Stop trying to move the goalposts. Or indeed trying to say the goalposts don't exist.

    If you think your OP claim is correct then your second statement is undermining it.

    If you think your second claim is correct then your first statement is undermining it. But then you have also claimed "I have not seen anyone who truly believes in one God and worships Him, being arrogant."

    So which is it? "Athiests are arrogant whereas true believers are not arrogant" OR "We all have arrogance in us, including true believers, so I now realise I was mistaken in starting this divisive thread."
     
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  5. Piculet

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    The english language isn't strong here, is it?
     
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    Should that "e" be upper case?
     
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    I doubt it. I'll say it just one more time to everyone: having arrogance is not the same as being arrogant.

    You're just deviating from the topic by any means necessary. Anyway, there are atheists in this forum who have said they are more intelligent than believers. For some reason they haven't taken part in this thread much... And for some reason no one has a problem with them saying so. :rolleyes:
     
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    How uneducated you are about Islam!
     
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    Not when I know they are prone to lie, even to themselves.
     
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    Perhaps because they just can't be bothered with your crassness?
     
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    But they reply to me. Not to the other 'nice' people who say they are better than others.
     
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    Your projection gets stronger. Not only have you the nerve to call half of RF arrogant, now you also call them liars. And how can you do that? Because you can read the minds of dozens of people just by reading their posts?

    Just one other question: what was your intention to put your OP in General Religious Debates? What did you expect?
     
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    Discussion about whether atheists are arrogant because they don't believe or whether they don't believe because they're arrogant.
     
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    You say you are better than others, true arrogance.
     
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    I'm not sure we have many examples of that. And I'm also not sure what you hope to achieve, since for many of us it does appear that you are trying to present a very unfavourable impression of Islam - of being very intolerant, rigid, and lacking in humility - which I doubt others , including myself, would see as being a true representation of how the majority of Muslims live their lives and which reflects their beliefs.
     
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    Thus far in this thread it has been you have shown a weak understanding of the English language.
     
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    I suspect it has more to do with they are looking for intelligent discourse and knew based on the OP that this thread would not offer one.
     
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    Nope, never said that. Like I said – liars.
    But everyone's here making sure no one gets to discuss the actual topic because it is so true.
    See? Passive aggressive again. That's why I don't reply to you.
    That's not the same as Islam. Islam is not defined by Muslims, it is defined by God.
     
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    And the answer is no, neither. The question itself is based on a faulty assumption.
     
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    It is a statement of fact.
    That you are more interested in avoiding your own OP topic is on you, not anyone else.

    You made a bold empty claim in your OP and refuse to support it beyond a generic quote from the Koran.

    Hells bells, you have thus far even denied you even made a claim.
    How is one to have a discussion about a claim you completely deny even making?
     
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