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How did Noah fit 8 million species on a boat?
He magiced them to make them small.
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How did Noah fit 8 million species on a boat?
He magiced them to make them small.
Please, please, please tell me that you don't really believe that, and were posting it as a joke?
Oh, ok. I didn’t know that. Thanks, David.
My son bought me a copy of The book of Enoch. How true it is to the one mentioned in the bible, IDK. It is an interesting read though, and goes into more detail of the pre flood world. I enjoyed reading it.
Just curious-are you completely uninterested in the fact
that here was no flood?
Completely
How true it is to the one mentioned in the bible, IDK.
8,000,000 species on the ark? Where do you get that?How did Noah fit 8 million species on a boat?
8,000,000 species on the ark? Where do you get that?
“From chapters such as Leviticus 11, it is obvious that the created kind (min in Hebrew, as in Genesis 1:11-12) was a much broader category than the modern term of classification, species. Current baraminologica research suggests that the created kind most closely corresponded to the family level in current taxonomy. However, to be conservative in this study, the genus was set as equivalent to the original created kind. As for the clean animals that entered the ark in seven pairs, this added a modest number of additional animals, notably bovids (cow-like mammals) and cervids (deer-like mammals). Under these conservative assumptions, there were no more than 16,000 land animals and birds on the ark.
According to the Bible, the ark had three decks (floors). It is not difficult to show that there was plenty of room for 16,000 animals, assuming they required approximately the same floor space as animals in typical farm enclosures and laboratories today. The vast majority of the creatures (birds, reptiles, and mammals) are small. The largest animals were probably only a few hundred pounds of body weight.
It is still necessary to take account of the floor spaces required by large animals, such as elephants, giraffes, rhinos, and some dinosaurs. But even these, collectively, do not require a large area. God would likely have sent to Noah young (and therefore small, but not newborn) representatives of these kinds so that they would have a full reproductive potential for life after the Flood to repopulate the earth (Genesis 7:1–3). Even the largest dinosaurs were relatively small when only a few years old.
Without tiering of cages, only 47 percent of the ark floor would have been necessary. What’s more, many could have been housed in groups, which would have further reduced the required space.”
From How Could Noah Fit the Animals on the Ark and Care for Them?
The problem with so called "baraminology" is that it is not scientific in the least. You are relying on liars, loons, and losers. If they want to claim that their ideas are "scientific" then they need to state a clear and reasonable test that could show them to be wrong if they are in error. The theory of evolution has several but a clear one would be a violation of phylogeny. You are also proposing super evolution and by the standards of "baraminology" man and other apes should be in the same "baramin". Are you sure that you want to do that? Special pleading is usually the death of a scientific idea.
hate to say it but the cowboy sounds more reasoned
and reasonable than you do
You have to be kidding. Those pushing the idea of baraminology have no peer review behind their claims. They simply make an ad hoc explanation based upon the assumption that the Bible is true and then worse yet propose super evolution after the a "Flood" that happened about 4,000 years ago. How much evolution can occur in 4,000 years? Actually much less since it appears that all species appeared in only a few generations after the Flood and then stopped appearing. His one link is to a site that requires its workers not to use the scientific method.
Perhaps it is time to discuss why we know that there wasn't a flood of Noah, again.
A bit about your esteemed baraminology.8,000,000 species on the ark? Where do you get that?
“From chapters such as Leviticus 11, it is obvious that the created kind (min in Hebrew, as in Genesis 1:11-12) was a much broader category than the modern term of classification, species. Current baraminologica research suggests that the created kind most closely corresponded to the family level in current taxonomy. However, to be conservative in this study, the genus was set as equivalent to the original created kind. As for the clean animals that entered the ark in seven pairs, this added a modest number of additional animals, notably bovids (cow-like mammals) and cervids (deer-like mammals). Under these conservative assumptions, there were no more than 16,000 land animals and birds on the ark.
Yes, that’s the thing. It’s wise to be skeptical of those apocryphal books. God’s spirit wasn’t protecting the integrity of those books through the years.
Although I’d like to read that Book of Enoch.
FYI, I’ve always appreciated the reverence toward the Bible you display in your posts!
Take care, my cousin.
So, like, believing that "god" committed some horrific
crime that never in fact occurred, is cool with you.
If there is a god, I wonder how he'd feel about that.
I wasn't thinking of it that way. But, someone believing in an event like the flood doesn't bother me. Why would it? It doesn't effect me.