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Armageddon, Second Coming of Jesus.

Desert Snake

Veteran Member
Waiting for Armageddon is the traditional belief of Jesus followers. The Second Coming, is when Jesus returns, at End Times, and is viewed as a good thing, not a bad thing.

Some churches messed up their reading of Scripture, and assumed Scripture meant that Jesus accomplished all the Messianic prophecy, at first arrival, in Yisrael.

This incorrect interpretation has changed Christianity into a hodge podge of wild claims that make no spiritual sense, in many cases.
 

idav

Being
Premium Member
What is the interfaith answer to your observation? Should people take book of Revelations symbolism as a metaphor? Many historians say Revelations was a symbolism for events already happened right after Christ. Which would kind of say that all the Christian end times lore is probably misguided.
 

Frater Sisyphus

Contradiction, irrationality and disorder
It is a Kabbalistic book of symbolism, a "prophecy" spelling out an alchemical transformation - the ascent through the tree of life - not an 'end of the earth' frenzy. The Exoteric interpretation is indeed misguided and ignorant of the immense influence of Jewish mysticism on the writing of Revelation.
It is also (for note) the book that re-birthed my interest in Christianity through the sheer beauty it encapsulates, similarly with Ezekiel.

Sadly for the many, it is a paranoid book about earth being destroyed and Jesus coming down through the clouds etc
 

David T

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
The book of revelation states clearly not to interpret it. If you understand it you don't interpret it. If you don't understand it you interpret it..... Jung's Red book gives us some insight into what I am talking about.

There is no approach to it, that allows for intellectually mapping to a conclusion about it. That's a sophisticated bit of writing well beyond how we generally read. It's totally rorschach that way with intent.
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David T

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
What is the interfaith answer to your observation? Should people take book of Revelations symbolism as a metaphor? Many historians say Revelations was a symbolism for events already happened right after Christ. Which would kind of say that all the Christian end times lore is probably misguided.
Its rorschach with intent to be rorschach.

If we walk out into the wilderness how we perceive the wilderness is determined by what we carry with us into the wilderness. Usually it's a whole huge load of baggage or realistically hot air. Getting rid of that can take a life time since some luggage seems to magically reappear all the time.
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Rational Agnostic

Well-Known Member
Waiting for Armageddon is the traditional belief of Jesus followers. The Second Coming, is when Jesus returns, at End Times, and is viewed as a good thing, not a bad thing.

Some churches messed up their reading of Scripture, and assumed Scripture meant that Jesus accomplished all the Messianic prophecy, at first arrival, in Yisrael.

This incorrect interpretation has changed Christianity into a hodge podge of wild claims that make no spiritual sense, in many cases.

Matthew 10:23, Matthew 16:28, and Luke 21:32 among several other New Testament verses predicted the second coming of Jesus to occur within the lifetimes of his disciples. This didn't happen.
 

Desert Snake

Veteran Member
Matthew 10:23, Matthew 16:28, and Luke 21:32 among several other New Testament verses predicted the second coming of Jesus to occur within the lifetimes of his disciples. This didn't happen.
That verse if interpreted as Second Coming inference, makes no sense to other things, that Jesus said. Jesus said that many kings would come and go, many false prophets would come and go, so forth. Clearly, Jesus was talking about End Times, being in the future, and far future, actually.
That verse is either worded in a manner that is literally being translated wrong, or, Jesus meant something else, was referring to something else.
 

Rational Agnostic

Well-Known Member
That verse if interpreted as Second Coming inference, makes no sense to other things, that Jesus said. Jesus said that many kings would come and go, many false prophets would come and go, so forth. Clearly, Jesus was talking about End Times, being in the future, and far future, actually.
That verse is either worded in a manner that is literally being translated wrong, or, Jesus meant something else, was referring to something else.

If it was translated incorrectly, then how can we trust that the rest of the bible was translated correctly?
 
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