Are these the last days?

[12jtartar]

Jesus spoke of the end of the world or system of things as recorded in Matthew 24, Luke 21, and Mark 13. Other Scriptures refer to the last days, describing them as "critical times hard to deal with." (2 Timothy 3:1-5) Do you think these are the last days?

rusra02,
There is absolutely no doubt that we are living in the Last Days of this age, system of things. There is, what is called a composit signs made up of 39 different conditions that would be found in the Last Days. NOW, each of these conditions would also be in other days, generations, but not all in one generation, and in unprecedented levels.
Take wars, this is what the Red Horse of Rev 6:4. Wars is this generation have killed more people than ALL the wars, since Jesus was on earth. That is one very definite sign!!!
Take pestilences, Luke 21:11. We have all heard about the great influenza outbreak of 1918. First they said that about 20 million died, now after a close search through records, it has now been stated that there could have been as many as 200 million that died. Aides has killed millions and still killing. Others have killed millions, and Medical authorities say that they expect another devastation disease to start at any time, maybe one that we have no cure for. Some of the diseases that were thought to be eliminated are coming back, and much more resistant than the original strain.
Take earthquakes, Matt 24:7. Records show that the frequency of major earthquakes is ten times more than in previous generations, and there are around five million recordable earthquakes every year.
What about the degeneration of society??? 2Tim 3:1-7. Pornography makes more money on the internet than anything else. Think of the millions of abortions every year, Ex 21:22-24. The drug war is a total failure!!! It seems the only way to get a hold on it, is to make much of it legal.
Consider the things of the flesh that the Bible warns against, Gal 5:19-21. Is not this system filled with such things???
Consider Rom 1:18-32. Is not this generation filled with such things.
All these things that are mentioned in the Bible as signs of the Last Days, are all in this one generation and all at an unprecedented scale. We are indeed, living in the Last Days!!!

 

[12jtartar]

There is no last days, there is only a beginning of things to come.

wizanda,
For a new day to start there must be an end of the day before.
As for long hair on a man, the Bible speaks against this, 1Cor 11:14-16. There is a good reason for this rule.
Think! If you want to impart religious truth to another, and that is exactly what Christianity is all about, would a person be as likely to listen to a long haired, bearded man as one neat and clean shaven?? What then does this do, it stumbles the very ones who Jesus came to earth and gave his life for, 1Cor 8:11, Matt 18:6,7. Just like God does, all Christians want for everyone to repent and obtain everlasting life, 2Pet 3:9-18.

 

[savagewind]

wizanda,
For a new day to start there must be an end of the day before.
As for long hair on a man, the Bible speaks against this, 1Cor 11:14-16. There is a good reason for this rule.
Think! If you want to impart religious truth to another, and that is exactly what Christianity is all about, would a person be as likely to listen to a long haired, bearded man as one neat and clean shaven?? What then does this do, it stumbles the very ones who Jesus came to earth and gave his life for, 1Cor 8:11, Matt 18:6,7. Just like God does, all Christians want for everyone to repent and obtain everlasting life, 2Pet 3:9-18.

KNOW! 1 Samuel 16:6 When they entered, he looked at Eliab and thought, "Surely the LORD'S anointed is before Him." 7 But the LORD said to Samuel, "Do not look at his appearance or at the height of his stature, because I have rejected him; for God sees not as man sees, for man looks at the outward appearance, but the LORD looks at the heart."8Then Jesse called Abinadab and made him pass before Samuel. And he said, "The LORD has not chosen this one either."…

 

[savagewind]

I have experienced that the Jehovah's Witnesses believe a person should get dressed up to survive the last days. They really do discourage people coming to their meetings as they are. According to them, people must change according to their way to be saved by God.

Someone says, "I want some food". The governing body dispensed "spiritual food at the proper time", although it seems all people must be in sync with that. Of course they won't refuse a person in their poor rags but eventually they will.

 

[Unification]

Jesus spoke of the end of the world or system of things as recorded in Matthew 24, Luke 21, and Mark 13. Other Scriptures refer to the last days, describing them as "critical times hard to deal with." (2 Timothy 3:1-5) Do you think these are the last days?

People often refer to their own mental perceptions as their "worldview."

This is no different then what the texts are referring to. The world being someone's mental worldview, and the death to ones mental perceived world.

Not the literal world "out there."

 

[Kelly of the Phoenix]

I don't know but in my heart I would hope so.
I'd hate to believe my kids and grand kids will have to endure more of this crap!

If future gens are not taught the basics of survival needs, they're screwed. Our problems are generally fixable. We just need the brains and the wills.

Jesus mentioned three notable events in Matthew 24:7,8 that he said marked a beginning of pangs of distress. "For nation will rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be food shortages and earthquakes in one place after another."
Three times as many people died in 20th century wars than in all the wars from the first century to 1899.(Worldwatch institute)
Food shortages are also a feature of the 20th century. 5 million children die each year from malnution effects according to WHO.
Earthquakes have taken over 2 million lives since 1900.
Just based on this one prophetic verse, I find the evidence compelling that we are in the last days.

Warring nations happens every frickin' day. Whoop-de-do.

More people are going to die in wars when you trade in your spears and shields with tanks and nukes. On the plus side, we're also way more populated than Jesus could ever have predicted, so we'll make it. Numbers are the problem but also the reason we are like cockroaches.

There is no last days, there is only a beginning of things to come.

Indeed. It's the Circle of Life. Day might turn into night but you just wait a few more hours and it's day again.

(And this is coming from someone who suffers from chronic depression. If I can see the light at the end of the tunnel, so can others, for God's sake.)

What do we mean, actually, but the "last days"? Of what? For the earth to blow up? Good luck with that. For humans only to die? Who cares? God threatens us with extinction all the time. He also tends to back out at the last minute and at least save some of us so that the same flawed, evil people He supposedly hates continue on. Or are we all saying that life will change? News flash: does every day.

When we are in the "Valley of Death", we shouldn't fear evil but roll up our sleeves and clean up the manure.

 

[Unification]

If future gens are not taught the basics of survival needs, they're screwed. Our problems are generally fixable. We just need the brains and the wills.


Warring nations happens every frickin' day. Whoop-de-do.

More people are going to die in wars when you trade in your spears and shields with tanks and nukes. On the plus side, we're also way more populated than Jesus could ever have predicted, so we'll make it. Numbers are the problem but also the reason we are like cockroaches.


Indeed. It's the Circle of Life. Day might turn into night but you just wait a few more hours and it's day again.

(And this is coming from someone who suffers from chronic depression. If I can see the light at the end of the tunnel, so can others, for God's sake.)

What do we mean, actually, but the "last days"? Of what? For the earth to blow up? Good luck with that. For humans only to die? Who cares? God threatens us with extinction all the time. He also tends to back out at the last minute and at least save some of us so that the same flawed, evil people He supposedly hates continue on. Or are we all saying that life will change? News flash: does every day.

When we are in the "Valley of Death", we shouldn't fear evil but roll up our sleeves and clean up the manure.

Wishing you the best to come to an end of days and end times for your chronic depression. I have faith in you.

 

[Kelly of the Phoenix]

It's harder in winter. I am very much a solar creature.

 

[Unification]

It's harder in winter. I am very much a solar creature.

Lol, a solar creature of habit. I understand, it's cold here.

Just have to find the heaven in all.

 

[Thief]

Jesus spoke of the end of the world or system of things as recorded in Matthew 24, Luke 21, and Mark 13. Other Scriptures refer to the last days, describing them as "critical times hard to deal with." (2 Timothy 3:1-5) Do you think these are the last days?

saw a doomsday documentary.....ten possible extinction of Man...
only one seemed likely....

the earth has sufficient chemistry to support 9billion people.
we are almost there.

 

[Sleeppy]

The "last days" are relative, as some here jokingly affirm. And it is also true that what we experience is never perceived in entirety.

 

[12jtartar]

Sleeppy,
You are right, these last days are related to the last days of the people in Noah's day. They were eating, drinking, marrying and being given in marriage, and they took no notice until the flood came and swept them all away. It will be the same in these days, for it will come upon all those on the entire inhabited earth, Matthew 24:37-39, Luke 17:26-29. Much is recorded about the last days, at Matthew chapter 24, Mark chapter 13, Luke chapter 21. Recorded in these chapters are signs for us to look for, and there are recorded 39 different signs that we are living, not only in the last days, but very near the LAST day.
All of the signs that Jesus said to watch for are happening now, and on an unprecedented scale, showing beyond a doubt that these are the last days. There has never before been a generation that has had all the things mentioned, and especially with each one on a scale never before experience by any generation.
There is another way that points to these days!!! Each of the creative days were 7,000 years long. This can be seen by all the evidence, as most Bible Scholars realize that we are in the last days. Adam was created in the last part of the sixth creative day, and Adam was created in 4,026 BC, or 6,041 years ago. The last 1,000 years of this 7th day will be the 1,000 year Judgment Day, Revelation 20: 1-3, 4-7. This means that the end of the last days could happen at any moment. Starting with the Great Tribulation and ending at Armageddon.

 

[Sleeppy]

The 'last days' refer not only to a worldwide repentance event, but to individual and societal evolutionary pivot points, as well.

 

[kerndog]

Oh, it's always the "last days"... So hug yourself real hard, put on your tin-foil hat, and chant hymns to the alien overlords.

List of dates predicted for apocalyptic events - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Bible specifically and purposefully avoids making absolute declarative predictions. So all of the arguments otherwise, using that same scripture, seem kind of pointless.

Oh, it's always the "last days"... So hug yourself real hard, put on your tin-foil hat, and chant hymns to the alien overlords.

List of dates predicted for apocalyptic events - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Bible specifically and purposefully avoids making absolute declarative predictions. So all of the arguments otherwise, using that same scripture, seem kind of pointless.

2 peter 3:3-5 !!

 

[savagewind]

2 peter 3:3-5 !!

Please consider the possibility that you have been taught the meaning of that scripture wrong. I believe the scripture was originally written as a true word of God but I think it makes no sense the way the JWs and others teach it.
I know for a fact that modern Christianity fashions itself after the Jewish faith. That is what 2 Peter 3:3-5 means. It was happening at the time of the writing of it and it is still happening. The Jews were taught they alone were God's people. They were taught that righteousness was by means of obedience. And that is what is being taught now in Jesus' name.
Jesus did not teach that way.
Christianity mocks Judaism. It isn't right.

 

[savagewind]

Just so you know, saying "where is Jesus?" and saying, "where is the end?", are not the same.

THINK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You all are calling, "where is the end you keep prophesying?" the same as, "where is Jesus?"
Jesus is this: that by the word of God the heavens existed long ago and the earth was formed out of water and by water,6through which the world at that time was destroyed, being flooded with water. 7But by His word the present heavens and earth are being reserved for fire, kept for the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men.8But do not let this one fact escape your notice, beloved, that with the Lord one day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years like one day

You don't believe me.
What about this? God is not far off from each one of us. Is that scripture or opinion?

Has God ALWAYS not been far off from each one of humankind? I say yes. What say YOU?

 

[savagewind]

I guess he didn't get the memo.
I shall ask the new guy the question I have been asking a wall. @kerndog
First of all I think you might agree that EVERYTHING God prophesies absolutely without a shadow of a doubt will come true. MUST come true.
The governing body of JWs say that God prophesies people will mockingly taunt believers about Jesus presence. WHY? Why does God need people to do that? It has to come true. Correct? Why did God have it written down? What good is it to know that? Everything God does is good. Correct? Then tell us what good was the writing of that? And someone has to play the mockers. Correct? That means there are people who must play the bad guys for God. Do you call that fair? I don't.

It's actually a warning to people who might listen. Unbelievers are people who do not listen. So, tell me please (I know you won't) why does God's word tell us about that, according to you?

 

[savagewind]

Do you want to know what I think? @kerndog
IF it means what I think it means then it is for a coming back to Jehovah. People have attached themselves to God's promise but God's promise is not GOD. Can someone agree with me there? It is what "after their own desire" means. It is OK and to be expected. There is a lot of growing up to do. God is patient and always has been imho. What you want to do according to the lesson of 2 Peter 3:3-5 is to see yourself as though you are looking at yourself through truth. The truth is that god has promised you nothing. Rethink Psalms 23. It does not say that God will provide so that you will have no want. It means do not want what YOU believe God wants to give you. Did not Jesus say we are to pray for GOD'S will be done? BUT if you desire then you want. You are off on your own. So the writer of Peter is trying to bring you back. So, be brought back. You can't use the scripture at 2 Peter 3:3-5 for good if you believe it is not about you.

 

[jonathan180iq]

2 peter 3:3-5 !!

So the mockers of all of those previous "last days" predictions were actually, somehow, wrong?

It's not a very impressive thing to suggest that people will mock last days predictions... It's happened since the beginning of human time. It's surely not a sign that mockers are actually acting in accordance with a prophecy. It's just obvious human nature.

If that wasn't your point, I'd like to hear what else you have to say.

 

[12jtartar]

savagewind,
Until you pray for a good heart, l am afraid you will not be able to understand God's words. Any person who wants to understand, must be like a small child, humble, and asking questions, instead of making strong assertions, that are mostly dereism, at best, Matthew 18:2-6, 1Timothy 1:3-7. We are told very clearly that a person cannot understand God's word if his heart is bad, Matthew 13:13-15. Jesus made several statements about the heart, Mark 7:20,21, Luke 10:21.
Jeremiah made it clear that the heart is not to be trusted, unless of course, it has been trained by the Bible, Jeremiah 17:5,7,9, Proverbs 28:26, Hebrews 5:14, Proverbs 3:5,6. No wicked can understand, Daniel 12:10, Isaiah 26:10. There is hope, James 1:5-8. You must be careful not to stumble anyone who is wanting to understand the Bible, because you could lose your own salvation, Matthew 18:6,7, Philippians 1:9,10, 1Corinthians 8:11, Romans 14:15, 2Peter 3:15-18