Are Adam and Eve Incompatible with Evolution?

[Truth&Hope]

Apparently some immunologist has recently published a book arguing that evolution and the Christian belief that all humans descended from Adam and Eve are not incompatible.

Christians point to genetics breakthroughs to show Adam and Eve are not incompatible with evolution

From what I gleaned in the article, the idea is that humans descended from earlier hominids but then God also magically created Adam and Eve about 6000 years ago, and their kids Cain and Abel intermarried with other humans who had evolved naturally. So by 1CE, all living humans had some of traceable lineage back to Adam and Eve.

Personally I think this sounds like a desperate attempt to salvage a literal reading of Genesis. But I'm curious what you think? Especially those of you with more knowledge of evolution, biology, genetics, etc.

The Bible’s story and how everything came to be is called Creation , made by a Creator. Evolution is a direct contradiction.

 

[gnostic]

The Bible’s story and how everything came to be is called Creation , made by a Creator. Evolution is a direct contradiction.

Evolution is the science that explains HOW biological mechanisms for changes in life over period of time, but “time” as in “generations”, not in “years”.

These changes occurred in small increments, from generation to generation, so among animals, the changes are passed on through genetics, from parents to offspring.

These small changes may not be observable in a few generations (unless the organisms are of bacteria species), but accumulation of many generations of small changes can result in notable physical changes.

To understand Evolution, you would require understanding of genetics and molecular biology, and it dependent on what organisms (eg bacteria, archaea, plants, fungi, animals) each biologists are studying or researching on.

Most biologists only worked in very specific fields, so in general, most biologists have never studied paleontology.

Paleontology is a very specialized field in which studied the fossils of organisms. They not only need to study biology and evolution, they must also have knowledge in geology, which would include minerals, rocks and layers of rocks (strata, so knowledge in stratigraphy).

Paleontologists need this information about strata, rocks and minerals, because most fossilization occurred when dead organisms are buried by layers of soils and rocks, minerals get into bones (permineralization), which start the process of fossilization.

The Bible, particularly offered no explanations to biology, nor explanations as to how and why life change over times.

Genesis 1 & 2 saying that god created plants (day 3), marine life & winged fowls (day 5), and all animals that walk or crawl on land, plus the creation of humans (day 6)...none of these descriptions in Genesis narratives are considered explanations of biology of each ones that were mentioned.

To give you some examples, read this passage:

20 And God said, “Let the waters bring forth swarms of living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the dome of the sky.” 21 So God created the great sea monsters and every living creature that moves, of every kind, with which the waters swarm, and every winged bird of every kind.

That’s all Genesis say about marine life and birds: fishes swim in water and birds with wings can fly.

Even illiterate Neolithic fishermen, hunters and farmers know that much about fishes and birds, without any scientific knowledge whatsoever.

There are nothing profoundly knowledgeable in Genesis. Certainly Genesis shared no knowledge of anatomy and physiology of birds and fishes.

Other than saying birds have wings, there are more than just wings to allow birds to fly, like the locomotives of bones, muscles and joints of shoulders and wings, the hollowness of bones that provide circulation of air in their bodies (hence their lightness in weight), the feathers that aerodynamics of the birds, the bird’s tail that allow them turn left or right or go up and down.

The Genesis just saying birds have wings can fly, is just very vague description, that even 4 year old child would know.

Plus, just because birds have wings, it don’t always facilitate flight for birds. Penguins and the extinct auks, were incapable of flight, but they are excellent swimmers. Their feet and wings are what give them propulsion in water.

And emus and ostriches are noted for being able to run on their powerful legs, but their wings are too weak to support flight.

In that passage I have quoted, it speak of god creating many “kinds” of marine life and many kinds of birds, but the word “kind” is rather vague, to be almost useless. And creation on day 6 is no better.

Evolution explained not only specific species but also how they are related to each other, and how those changes may have occurred to cause speciation.

Genesis 1 don’t say anything that are useful in the modern world, and certainly don’t contribute anything to biological sciences..

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

The Bible’s story and how everything came to be is called Creation , made by a Creator. Evolution is a direct contradiction.

When the evidence of reality (like all evidence of evolution) contradicts your religious narrative, it means that your religious narrative is incorrect.

 

[Triumph]

Apparently some immunologist has recently published a book arguing that evolution and the Christian belief that all humans descended from Adam and Eve are not incompatible.

Christians point to genetics breakthroughs to show Adam and Eve are not incompatible with evolution

From what I gleaned in the article, the idea is that humans descended from earlier hominids but then God also magically created Adam and Eve about 6000 years ago, and their kids Cain and Abel intermarried with other humans who had evolved naturally. So by 1CE, all living humans had some of traceable lineage back to Adam and Eve.

Personally I think this sounds like a desperate attempt to salvage a literal reading of Genesis. But I'm curious what you think? Especially those of you with more knowledge of evolution, biology, genetics, etc.

People miss the fact that the story of Adam and Eve is the creation narrative of Jews to establish their bloodline as the only acceptable by God race/religion/government on Earth. This narrative was fostered by Abraham that creates his bloodline history (just like the Greek that invented Zeus and his family tree), that claimed Abraham was selected by God to have a royal bloodline forever. Jesus stated Abraham had it written his sons were born holy from birth as Gods. Jesus told them they are not Gods and Abraham never heard the voice of God. Jesus hears the words of God; this Abraham did not do. Abraham had no witness to his original claim that God selected him as chosen and Abraham by scripture is a proven incestuous liar, slave owner and killer. Jesus states a person cannot be their own witness as that makes their witness not true, unprovable as truth. Jesus was leading so many people away from that Adam, Eve and talking serpent religion that the Jewish High Priest feared their religion would cease to exist, they were going broke without support of people. So the High Priest demanded Jesus die to stabilize their power, wealth and position in the beliefs of people. Without Jesus to prove they were wrong they could convince people they were right and were willing to kill people that said they were wrong.
There are 2 creation stories in Genesis. The Living God created by evolution design of DNA, created man and woman as a specie and we are still in the symbolic 6th day of creation as new humans are created everyday as are new stars and planets in the house of God, the universe. The true outline of creation by God using science ends in Genesis 2:1 then the Jewish talking snake fiction of creation of the Jewish race begins in Genesis 2:4.

 

[metis]

People miss the fact that the story of Adam and Eve is the creation narrative of Jews to establish their bloodline as the only acceptable by God race/religion/government on Earth.

With some it is, especially the more orthodox, but with many it's not, who tend to more see it all being allegorical.

 

[tas8831]

This.

There is no other reason to take the story of A&E seriously.

But... Fox news covered it, so....

 

[tas8831]

The Bible’s story and how everything came to be is called Creation , made by a Creator.

Also is contraindicated via evidence. Bible loses.

 

[gnostic]

The Bible’s story and how everything came to be is called Creation , made by a Creator. Evolution is a direct contradiction.

The Bible has never offered any full and clear explanations on what each species, not why they change, nor explain biology of any creature (eg anatomy, physiology, how genetics work, etc).

 

[Astrophile]

Donald Johanson, the discoverer of Lucy, admitted he cannot prove the bones belong to ONE individual, and said:

"I BELIEVE, although I CANNOT PROVE IT, that they represent the upper legs of one individual."

Ref: Book: Lucy, The Beginnings of Humankind by Donald Johanson.

Comment: Lucy is a mixed collection of bones from multiple individuals and a total FARCE. There is no better source of information than the book written by the discoverer of Lucy, Donald Johanson.

Can you please give the page number, or tell me which chapter this sentence is in.