Antisemitism

[Yerda]

According to the Anti-Defamation League around 80 million Europeans harbour anti-Semitic attitudes.

The ADL GLOBAL 100: An Index of Anti-Semitism

According to recent(ish) news articles it is rising.

Europe must face up to the new antisemites | Noreena Hertz | Comment is free | The Guardian

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/09/w...ope-report-a-surge-in-anti-semitism.html?_r=0

Why?

 

[columbus]

According to the Anti-Defamation League around 80 million Europeans harbour anti-Semitic attitudes.

The ADL GLOBAL 100: An Index of Anti-Semitism

According to recent(ish) news articles it is rising.

Europe must face up to the new antisemites | Noreena Hertz | Comment is free | The Guardian

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/09/w...ope-report-a-surge-in-anti-semitism.html?_r=0

Why?

How do they distinguish between antiZionism and antisemitism?

Jewish people I like. Zionists I don't care for and wish they would go away.

Tom
Eta ~Zionists have habit of confusing the two

 

[GoodbyeDave]

How do they distinguish between antiZionism and antisemitism?

They don't.

 

[Yerda]

How do they distinguish between antiZionism and antisemitism?

The ADL survey doesn't appear to be designed to detect the difference. However, the Jews in France, Germany, Poland, Greece etc who are reporting growing hostility probably know the difference.

 

[Altfish]

The problem is that sometimes people are too quick to accuse people of "anti-Semitism".

There are some horrendous events, e.g. this...
BBC News - 'Sickening' anti-Semitic attack on Manchester cemetery

But, someone disagreeing with circumcision or kosher rules relating to the killing of animals are often counted as anti-Semitic. I don't they are.

 

[Yerda]

The problem is that sometimes people are too quick to accuse people of "anti-Semitism".

While I appreciate that the term is thrown about to neutralise criticism of Israel or superstitious religious practices the problem is still antisemitism.

And another thing. We are all too keen to dismiss accusations of antisemitism.

 

[metis]

Jewish people I like. Zionists I don't care for and wish they would go away.

Very often anti-Zionism is just one manifestation of anti-Semitism, wouldn't you agree?

 

[Sunstone]

Jaiket, any ideas about what might be causing the resurgence of antisemitism?

By the way, I agree the term "antisemite" has been thrown around so much -- and so inappropriately -- as to lose some of its meaning. But that point pales in comparison to the ugly reality of antisemitism.

 

[Sunstone]

Very often anti-Zionism is just one manifestation of anti-Semitism, wouldn't you agree?

I would agree. But I have also known Anti-Zionism to be falsely labeled as antisemitism. For instance, when Glenn Greenwald criticized certain aspects of US/Israeli relations, he was vilely attacked as both "a self-loathing Jew" and an "antisemite" by people who, I believe, did not make those charges in good faith, but rather, were merely attempting to smear someone they had no answer for on the merits.

 

[Altfish]

While I appreciate that the term is thrown about to neutralise criticism of Israel or superstitious religious practices the problem is still antisemitism.

And another thing. We are all too keen to dismiss accusations of antisemitism.

It is the problem of crying 'wolf' too often. Jewish politicians do it all of the time, "Don't agree with Jewish settlements, then you are anti-Semitic"

 

[YmirGF]

Immigration could be a minor factor here though that idea is almost verboten to mention. It rubs against the warm and fuzzy ideals of multiculturalism and diversity too much for the liberal elites to give too much credence. Then, there are places like Malmo, Sweden.

Muslim refugees and the cost of Sweden's kindness - Canada - CBC News

I could report similar headlines from all European countries... Just sayin'

 

[Sunstone]

It is the problem of crying 'wolf' too often. Jewish politicians do it all of the time, "Don't agree with Jewish settlements, then you are anti-Semitic"

But that doesn't explain why antisemitism is on the rise in Europe, does it? I mean, people aren't becoming antisemitic simply because a bunch of politicians have overused a word, are they?

 

[Altfish]

But that doesn't explain why antisemitism is on the rise in Europe, does it? I mean, people aren't becoming antisemitic simply because a bunch of politicians have overused a word, are they?

I never said it did, I'm just trying to get to the bottom of what is recorded as being anti-semetic and asking the question, "Are people really becoming more anti-semetic or is the threshold level for an anti-semetic incident too low?"

 

[columbus]

The ADL survey doesn't appear to be designed to detect the difference. However, the Jews in France, Germany, Poland, Greece etc who are reporting growing hostility probably know the difference.

My cynicism is due to living in a place where the "melanin challenged" still meet occasionally or gather on forums like "storm front" to complain about how they are discriminated against.

I doubt very much that EuroJews are finding life any more difficult than the rest of us do.

Tom

Tom

 

[Sunstone]

"Are people really becoming more anti-semetic or is the threshold level for an anti-semetic incident too low?"

I can see how that question might be little more than a false dichotomy.

 

[Sunstone]

I doubt very much that EuroJews are finding life any more difficult than the rest of us do.

It's certainly not like there's any history of antisemitism resulting in systematic violence against Jews.

 

[columbus]

It's certainly not like there's any history of antisemitism resulting in systematic violence against Jews.

Name a group there hasn't been systematic violence against. Het white males? Oh wait, I hear the Klan calling.

Tom

 

[raw_thought]

Europe has a history of anti-semitism. Ironically Europe is mostly Christian. So some hate Jews and worship a Rabbi. * That is not only evil ( prejudice) its moronic. I remember seeing a film that had SS ( nazi) troops singing " Oh Bethlehem." DUH!! Where did they think Bethlehem was located? Sweden?
That having been said I do agree that the label anti-semetic is sometimes used without reason. For example if you say the Israelis should treat the Palestinians better, you are labeled an anti-semite.
* Here is what Jesus looked like http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/health/forensics/1282186 he was not Swedish ( blond, blue eyes etc) Here is a photo of our old friend Swedish Jesus, http://search.findwide.com/imageDet...sition=18&k=jesus&startSERP=0&imagePerPage=20

 

[Quagmire]

Talking about the history of Jewish people in Europe and saying something like this:

Name a group there hasn't been systematic violence against.

. . . is like pointing at a group of people starving to death in the third world and saying, " Well who hasn't been a little hungry now and then?"

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Jewish people I like.

Jewish people you like? All of them? Are we all that much alike? (You know how those Jews are …)

This type of bigoted and patronizing "some-of-my-best-friends-are-Negro-but" drivel is more than a littler transparent.