Jacob Wrestles With An Angel - Rembrandt
Jacob Wrestles With An Angel - Doré
Jacob Wrestles With An Angel - Delacroix
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Angels in Art
- Thread starter Jayhawker Soule
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Jacob Wrestles With An Angel - Rembrandt
Jacob Wrestles With An Angel - Doré
Jacob Wrestles With An Angel - Delacroix
and, of course ...
Jacob Wrestles With An Angel - Gauguin
lilithu
The Devil's Advocate
I'm more interested in why they all depict Jacob wrestling with an angel in the first place. My understanding of that story is that Jacob wrestled with God Himself.Katzpur said:
Genesis 32:24-30
24 And Jacob was left alone; and there wrestled a man with him until the breaking of the day. 25 And when he saw that he prevailed not against him, he touched the hollow of his thigh; and the hollow of Jacob's thigh was out of joint, as he wrestled with him. 26 And he said, Let me go, for the day breaketh. And he said, I will not let thee go, except thou bless me. 27 And he said unto him, What is thy name? And he said, Jacob. 28 And he said, Thy name shall be called no more Jacob, but Israel: for as a prince hast thou power with God and with men, and hast prevailed. 29 And Jacob asked him, and said, Tell me, I pray thee, thy name. And he said, Wherefore is it that thou dost ask after my name? And he blessed him there. 30 And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.
Bishka
Veteran Member
dawny0826 said:Cherubim and Seraphim angels are noted within the Bible to have wings.
The Angels in the book of Revelation are actually referred to as being kind of ugly and resembled animals.
Angels in the OT, when fornicating with human women had "giant" offspring.
I'm rambling...
I wont pursue this any more here since this is DIR, but isn't the Book of Revelation symbolic?
James the Persian
Dreptcredincios Crestin
dawny0826 said:
Where the heck do you get that from? I know of absolutely no tradition that says that Satan was a Cherub and it certainly isn't found in Scripture. To the best of my knowledge, the Tradition of all three pre-Reformation churches (us, the RCs and the OOs) is that Satan was an Archangel, which is an entirely different rank of angel from the Cherubim. As Judaism doesn't consider Satan to be a fallen angel at all and Islam considers him to be a Djinn, I'm rather interested to see what could possibly be the source for your information.
James
RevOxley_501
Well-Known Member
divine said:more doré :
wow, that ones pretty intense
I believe in Someone who has.beckysoup61 said:
In addition, the cherubs and seraphs are described in the books of Exodus, Kings and Chronicles, 2Samuel, Psalms, Isaiah, Ezekiel, and likely some I missed, as having wings.
There are, of course, many Biblical references to angels without descriptions. And some, like the ones sent to Sodom, probably didn't have wings since the crowds thought they were merely men.
It seems that maybe there are some of each - some with and some without wings. In art, the wings make the angels, IMO. Like in the ones where Jacob is wrestling with the angel, the wings make it obvious which is Jacob and which is the angel
I originally asked Katzpur the question though, as she stated so matter-of-factly that angels have no wings. I figured she may have seen some to be so sure, despite some Biblical descriptions.