Bishka
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Me too.Katzpur said:That would be my understanding, too, Dawn.
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Me too.Katzpur said:That would be my understanding, too, Dawn.
I did not get the impression that James was objecting to Satan being an angel. He was objecting to Satan being a cherub. While I also do not claim to be an expert on angels it's my understanding that cherubs are rather low on the totem pole for angels. When I went to Lutheran school I was taught that Satan was an Archangel, as James said. It makes a lot more sense that an Archangel would get prideful and defy God and be able to draw a third of the heavenly host with him than a cherub doing that.dawny0826 said:It's always been my understanding, since childhood, James, that Satan was an angel. To be honest, it wasn't until recent years that I even took notice to the fact that there are different types of angels. So, trust me...
I don't claim to be an expert on angels. Which is why I chose my wording carefully. I believe I stated that Satan was supposedly a Cherub.
I've simply heard and read OTHERS refer to Satan as a Cherub.
Ezekial, Chapter 28, verses 12-16 states that Satan was the "anointed cherub". I have a hunch though that your interpretation of these verses may be a little different than mine.
I simply believe that Satan was a an angel cast out of heaven.
Edit: It seems that I'm not the only one who has posted from Ezekial, Chapter 28.
lilithu said:I did not get the impression that James was objecting to Satan being an angel. He was objecting to Satan being a cherub. While I also do not claim to be an expert on angels it's my understanding that cherubs are rather low on the totem pole for angels. When I went to Lutheran school I was taught that Satan was an Archangel, as James said. It makes a lot more sense that an Archangel would get prideful and defy God and be able to draw a third of the heavenly host with him than a cherub doing that.
And for the nth time, Ezekial does not say that Satan was the anointed cherub. No where is Satan mentioned in the text. One can claim that Ezekial is talking about the King of Tyre and Satan but it's not supported in the text. That's poor exegesis.
d. said:cherubim?
Katzpur said:Hmmm. They've all got wings. Angels don't have wings.