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If u consider an entity that manages worlds and is himself the only creator of everything u can be considered a Muslim generally otherwise if u imagine something alongside god that isn't under his management u aren't Muslim anymoreMuslims:
1) What does it mean to attribute associates to Allah?
2) Is Allah subverted by the free will of His creation?
3) Concerning the Day of Judgement: What is the difference between knowledge and judgement?
If u consider an entity that manages worlds and is himself the only creator of everything u can be considered a Muslim generally otherwise if u imagine something alongside god that isn't under his management u aren't Muslim anymore
Everything ,every move is powered by God so not only free will but also every evil and devilish things can be attributed to god but indirectly
In other words since everything is powered by God u can attribute them to him indirectly
God knows about our actions but after the resurrection he will make a decision about our fate regarding our actions here
In The day of judgement evildoers will see the glory of pious people and will regret about that this is another punishment that God prepared for evildoersIf everything is either directly, or indirectly, attributable to Allah- what purpose does Allah have in delaying, and deciding what is foreknown?
You're saying that Allah judges Himself.
In The day of judgement evildoers will see the glory of pious people and will regret about that this is another punishment that God prepared for evildoers
And some pious people such as prophets and martyrs will intercede for those who have bad and good deeds to enter them heaven
These are some reasons that why God delays making judge about people until that day
And notice that many people deserve to go to hell but God because is benign will forgive some of them
And the only thing between us and god is our ability to choose
This ability shows that God's direct actions are different from ours
That's why God won't judge himself
Them??? what do u mean by that????Ability to choose. When someone makes a choice, does that choice originate with them? Does it originate from Allah? Or does it originate from nothing?
Them??? what do u mean by that????
Actually I didn't get completely but look
God has powered our actions and the ability to choose
I mean when u make a choice God has given u to make that if he doesn't do so u can't do anything
This is just about our physical actions
But at making a choice whether bad or good u r free
If u make a bad one god will give u a power to that bad thing likewise the good one
This idea is according to Shia religion that believes neither in free will nor in predestination but something between them
We aren't free to do whatever we want and actually don't have this power to do so
And isn't everything predestined simply because if everything is predestined by God punishment and rewards will be senseless and god doesn't do anything without a purpose
If I get your meaning properly the answer is very easyThank you, for conversing with me, brother.
But my question is very important here:
Where does the choice to do good originate? Where does the choice to do bad originate? What causes a person to choose good over bad? Or to choose bad over good?
These choices aren't random, and they aren't created out of nothingness. I suggest that we look at Adam's example. God knows all things, and gave the tree of knowledge concerning both good and evil, to Adam. The Son of Man digests good and evil together, and grows in the wisdom of that one tree's substance.
Cain and Abel are likewise both given for us to digest. But, there are many who accept Cain, and cannot hear Abel's blood, until it is their own.
If I get your meaning properly the answer is very easy
There are some reasons for that
First is human self
We have egoism and when we wanna choose this doesn't allow us to choose good
This is for those who are not under correct upbringing and haven't been able to educate or use wisdom
And we shouldn't forget the role of Satan in that. He always orders us to do bad
And society has effect on our choices
But consider when someone commits crime or is guilty Noone considers society or Satan or bad friends or family as a criminal simply because god has given to everyone a power we call reason
Even we have in holy quran that Satan will say in the day of judgement that I didn't force them to do anything but rather they obeyed me! Blame is no them
And Because of ""reason"" God will punish and reward
Did I get your meaning properly?
Reason can be increased by study and practiceBut as you say, reason is not given to every person equally. Human reasoning does forcefully produce Satanic/adversarial action.
Reason can be increased by study and practice
That's why prophets came for
Shia mystics say we have to fight against our base desires and gradually our reason will overcome and will receive god's light
And about your statement God will consider our capacity
البقره
لَا يُكَلِّفُ اللَّهُ نَفْسًا إِلَّا وُسْعَهَا لَهَا مَا كَسَبَتْ وَعَلَيْهَا مَا اكْتَسَبَتْ
Allah does not charge a soul except [with that within] its capacity. It will have [the consequence of] what [good] it has gained, and it will bear [the consequence of] what [evil] it has earned. "Our Lord, do not impose blame upon us if we have forgotten or erred.
Every sane human is responsible for his actions and on the day of judgement he will reap what he has sowed bad or goodIn this case, creation is vindicated by the Creator.
But, to associate a Day of Judgement with the Creator, is to also associate with Him ignorance of that day, and also ignorance of the Creation.
Do you believe in a God who knows all things, not needing judgement, or the intercession of associated prophets?
Or do you believe in a God needing to observe His creation for evidence, and associating Himself with the reasoning of prophets to make judgement?
Every sane human is responsible for his actions and on the day of judgement he will reap what he has sowed bad or good
God hasn't vindicated creation although we know he is the most merciful
God knows everything but this doesn't mean that he shouldn't delay judgement about humans
Simply because he does whatever he wants and in resurrection God will show the reality of the holy Quran to all people
Besides God wants to show evildoers the bounties that he has prepared for righteous believers
This will be a kind of punishment for evildoers
And some prophets and martyrs and mystics will intercede
This is because God wants to make them proud of themselves and glory
After all Quran says some unbelievers will deny their actions and God's response :
يس
الْيَوْمَ نَخْتِمُ عَلَىٰ أَفْوَاهِهِمْ وَتُكَلِّمُنَا أَيْدِيهِمْ وَتَشْهَدُ أَرْجُلُهُم بِمَا كَانُوا يَكْسِبُونَ
That Day, We will seal over their mouths, and their hands will speak to Us, and their feet will testify about what they used to earn. (65)
GOD WILL FORGIVE MANY BUT whom ?
2) A Creator, without associate, is Himself the vindication of creation.
God hasn't vindicated creation although we know he is the most merciful
Unless he is alleged to be uncreated. How can he be a vindication of something he exists apart from? Indeed, how could God have been a vindication of creation before he created anything?
Eternal punishment for a finite non-crime (ie not worshipping him) is not merciful.
Actually I didn't understand some part of your statementsRespectfully, there are too many contradictions, for you to answer truthfully.
1) Judgement is a function of ignorance.
2) A Creator, without associate, is Himself the vindication of creation.
3) Sanity is not a human creation. Reason is not a human creation. Choice is not a human creation. Goodness is not a human creation. Humanity is not God's associate, creating any of these things.
4) Creation may not glorify itself.
5) Nothing intercedes between God and God's determination.
I don't know what you mean by vindicationUnless he is alleged to be uncreated. How can he be a vindication of something he exists apart from? Indeed, how could God have been a vindication of creation before he created anything?
Eternal punishment for a finite non-crime (ie not worshipping him) is not merciful.
Most of them believe thatThankfully, not all Muslims believe there is an eternal punishment, but a finite one for most people.