As I said, mainstream wise, they would be both on the left as it is on the right.
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All Peoples of Colour are Turning away from the Democratic Party
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Absolutely, it is a minority... I think the OP's point is simply that now there is a definite and notable change. It may be an anomaly or it may be a change that will continue to grow as time goes on.
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
Do you have some comparable examples of radical leftist views that are mainstream in the Democratic party?
Trump actually won the election ... Hang Mike Pence ... insurrection vs. abrams-the-election-was-stolen-from-the-people-of-georgia
Enacting anti-trans and anti-gay legislation all across the country vs Enacting pro-trans, pro-gray and no-religion across the country.
Democrats are pedophiles who eat babies' blood - this is actually funny... if you think this is mainstream then you may be part of the problem
Democrats are the party of "open borders" - Republicans are against immigration
California wildfires were started by Jewish space lasers-- this also is too funny if you think this is mainstream you may be part of the problem. -
"if we didn't pass Obamacare MILLION of people are going to DIE"
COVID is a hoax - Again, if you think this is mainstream you may be part of the problem. vs if you don't wear masks millions are going to DIE, if you don't get a vaccination millions are going to DIE. if you don't mask children millions are going to DIE, if we don't close down all the businesses millions are going to DIE.
Suffice to say there are radicals on both sides.
Enacting anti-trans and anti-gay legislation all across the country vs Enacting pro-trans, pro-gray and no-religion across the country.
Democrats are pedophiles who eat babies' blood - this is actually funny... if you think this is mainstream then you may be part of the problem
Democrats are the party of "open borders" - Republicans are against immigration
California wildfires were started by Jewish space lasers-- this also is too funny if you think this is mainstream you may be part of the problem. -
"if we didn't pass Obamacare MILLION of people are going to DIE"
COVID is a hoax - Again, if you think this is mainstream you may be part of the problem. vs if you don't wear masks millions are going to DIE, if you don't get a vaccination millions are going to DIE. if you don't mask children millions are going to DIE, if we don't close down all the businesses millions are going to DIE.
Suffice to say there are radicals on both sides.
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
"I think the election was stolen from the people of Georgia," Abrams said. "I don't know that empirically I would have won, but if you add together the thousands of people who faced extraordinarily long lines, who faced hurdles that should not happen in a democracy, the votes that we know were not counted, the secretary of state, who was also my opponent in the race, purged more than 1.4 million voters over basically an eight-year period."
She's not wrong, from what I can see.
Also, as noted, the majority of Republicans think that the Democrats committed mass voter fraud to steal the election from Trump.
Those aren't radical positions.
Really?
Once again, we're talking about a majority of Republicans' beliefs here, not just a few random loons. In other words, it's a mainstream belief among Republicans.
Nearly Half of Republicans Now Think Top Democrats Are Running Pedophile Cabals
New Yahoo News/YouGov poll: Half of Trump supporters believe QAnon's imaginary claims
Poll: Half Of Trump Supporters Believe Baseless Child Sex-Trafficking QAnon Claims
According to ?
Outlandish claims like this and that Democrats are running massive pedophile rings out of the basement of pizza parlours has become much more mainstream over the last few years as the QAnon cult has grown.
According to ?
If you disagree with this one, I'd have to say you just aren't paying attention.
https://thehill.com/policy/healthca...how-far-covid-19-misinformation-has-traveled/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...poll-gops-embrace-coronavirus-misinformation/
Viral thoughts: Why COVID-19 conspiracy theories persist
Fact check: COVID-19 is not a hoax to eliminate Trump
Millions of people worldwide (over 6 million) have died from COVID. So no, not a radical view. Just reality.
I could, and should have added that vaccines are killing everyone and the deaths are being hidden from us, the pandemic was planned by global elitists to control us, death tolls are being inflated, ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine are effective treatments that are being kept from us, the vaccine contains microchips to control us,
They don't seem to be even remotely equal.Suffice to say there are radicals on both sides.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
As an independent, I have to agree with you as the Republican Party and its media cronies have gone bonkers, which is also why many have left the party. Previous Republican spokesman Steve Schmidt was interviewed yesterday and called Fox "the Fascist News Channel", and then went on to say why. A reminder that he was the main organizer for the campaign of the younger George Bush.
And polls show that roughly 70% of people who call themselves "Republicans" say Trump won and no amount of evidence seems to even get close to swaying them away from the BIG LIE. As I've posted before, Trump is a neo-fascist, which is just one reason why he cannot, even when asked, criticize Putin, plus why he persistently praises "strong leaders" and says [falsely] that the Constitution allows him to do anything when president.
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
Thank you! As an outsider looking into the US, I've watched the Republican party descend into this strange madness over the last few years as the country (that I have always loved) has moved further and further to the right, and I find it rather alarming and bizarre.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Why do you think people shouldn't have a right to use plastic bags?
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
I think the fact that you refuse to answer the questions speaks volumes.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Not without paying a full price for them. Some people have the mistaken belief that one only needs to pay for a product. That is false. Try buying a nuclear reactor some day and sooner or later you will understand. You can be forced to pay for their disposal too. That is what my state has done.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I think you asking these type of questions speaks volumes.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
Places like Indiana will be regarded as the racist, bigoted, prejudiced crap hole it is instead of people having this idea it's a good, wholesome place.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
Why do you think your entitled to get them free from the store?
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
I don't understand why Conservatives and Republicans are so against having to pay for something that someone else paid to provide to them. And I can't see businesses being against it because it cuts out this senseless entitlement that costs them money.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Store were not charging their customers.
Until the authoritarian Democrats charged into other people's business.
Democrats now are grabbing an entitled cut for themselves though with the paper bag option. Figures, the ******* thieves that Democrats are.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
Nope. It was an extra expense for them because people felt entitled to a freebie. Businesses were expected to give them out for free, at the expense of the business.
And now Reps and Cons are whining and crying they don't get a useless handout.
A lot of Red districts have done it as well.
You call them a thief, but you are expecting businesses to pay for you to have an endless supply of plastic bags.
And black people will keep voting Dem, as they have and generally do, because the Reps think plastic bags are a significant issue.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
What a load of BS.
People are now running away from authoritarian Democrats as far away as they can.
They are called "Leftugees".
America’s Mass Migration Intensifies As ‘Leftugees’ Flee Blue States And Counties For Red
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
And yet a few weeks ago I met someone here who was a youth pastor as the same exact church in Indiana I did scouts at.
Like it or not people are still moving here and it's still booming and expanding.
And, this Mass Migration has been working both ways. Such as me, who moved to California to get away from the life ruining, soul crushing Conservative restrictions of Indiana (when I left you could still buy no alcohol on Sundays).
They'll still have the Indy 500, though. And Indiana basketball, too. Notre Dame football.
I had some relatives with some farms in Indiana. I remember visiting them when I was a kid. My grandparents lived just over the state line in Illinois. If not for Chicago, Illinois would probably be a lot like Indiana - and Missouri and Wisconsin and Kentucky and...well, a lot of states, including Arizona. I think many states are suffering from Florida Envy. Or maybe Texas Envy.