Mitty
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But do you have any evidence that he wasn't a god, given that Jesus died too and is buried in Kashmir?He died.
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But do you have any evidence that he wasn't a god, given that Jesus died too and is buried in Kashmir?He died.
No... you have no evidence he is buried in Kashmir since he lived in Israel. Do you have DNA confirmation? Did you speak to the people who saw Jesus? Do you have videos? Or only 19th century - that's 1800 years after - stories.?But do you have any evidence that he wasn't a god, given that Jesus died too and is buried in Kashmir?
But what evidence do you have that Jesus' mother had a sexual relationship with Cleophas, the husband of Mary (John 19:25)?
And why didn't the other gospel writers say that Jesus' mother and her sister rushed down from Nazareth to have a chat with Jesus and Mrs Mary Cleophas and Mary Magdalene and Jesus' lover while he was being executed for sedition?
And why did the other gospel writers say that Mary Magdalene & Mrs Cleophas and Mrs Zebedee only saw Jesus being executed from a distance and said nothing at all about Jesus' mother and his aunt even being there to watch Jesus being executed for sedition (Matt 27:55 Mark 15:40)?
Or are those just imaginary stories?
But do you have any evidence that Jesus existed, and if so, that he didn't go to India with Doubting Thomas after he was resuscitated by Joseph & Nicodemus with the help of 30 kg of healing agents including Aloe vera (John 19:39-40)?No... you have no evidence he is buried in Kashmir since he lived in Israel. Do you have DNA confirmation? Did you speak to the people who saw Jesus? Do you have videos? Or only 19th century - that's 1800 years after - stories.?
Jesus' tomb is empty because he resurrected... we have recorded confirmation (some are first hand) - The whole of Christianity spread throughout the known world not on the basis of having gone to India but on the basis of His resurrection.
But do you have any evidence to support your claim that Jesus' mother had a sexual relationship with Cleophas and that Jesus was married to Mary Magdalene, even though he loved one of his disciples (John 20:25-27 21:7)? And is that why Jesus' stepfather didn't come down from Nazareth with his wife and her sister to have a chat with Jesus while he was being executed for sedition?Why would anyone bother to enter into a conversation with someone who not only knows,
But what evidence do you have that Jesus' biological father saw Jesus after he was resuscitated by Joseph and Nicodemus and after he was seen by Jesus' mother and Mary Magdelene and Cleophas' wife, or did you just make that up?Obviously, the risen Christ would have appeared to his family first, and the fist to see the risen Christ, were his mother, 'the wife of Cleophas' and Mary Magdalene, who is believed to have been the wife of Jesus, as all rabbi's in those days were expected to be married, even though Mary, while looking directly at him, didn't recognise who he was until he spoke her name.
The next to see him, was his father Joseph the son of the renowned father, Alexander Helios,
But what evidence do you have that Jesus' biological father saw Jesus after he was resuscitated by Joseph and Nicodemus and after he was seen by Jesus' mother and Mary Magdelene and Cleophas' wife, or did you just make that up?
And why didn't the disciple who Jesus loved see him first? And why didn't Jesus' stepfather see him too?
But do you have any evidence to support your claim that Jesus' mother had a sexual relationship with Cleophas and that Jesus was married to Mary Magdalene, even though he loved one of his disciples (John 20:25-27 21:7)? And is that why Jesus' stepfather didn't come down from Nazareth with his wife and her sister to have a chat with Jesus while he was being executed for sedition?
But either way, I'm sure that one of my father's cousins knew, given that he was an Anglican Archbishop in Melbourne, even though I understand that none of his children are still believers.
No... you have no evidence he is buried in Kashmir since he lived in Israel. Do you have DNA confirmation? Did you speak to the people who saw Jesus? Do you have videos? Or only 19th century - that's 1800 years after - stories.?
Jesus' tomb is empty because he resurrected... we have recorded confirmation (some are first hand) - The whole of Christianity spread throughout the known world not on the basis of having gone to India but on the basis of His resurrection.
But do you have any actual evidence for your claims, or is it just imaginative words in a book?Correct! And after he was resurrected, he ascended to his father and our Father, to his God and our God, where he now, as revealed in Revelation 3: 21; sits, in the throne of our Father, where he invites all, who like himself, are able to win the victory over the ruler of this world to sit beside him in our Father's throne, from where, according to Paul, they shall judge even the angels.
But I have my doubts if atheists who haunt the religious forums, asking senseless and ridiculous questions in their attempts to rubbish the truth's as revealed in the Holy Scriptures, will ever be invited to sit beside our chosen King and High Priest.
That's your choice if you want to ignore what the bible actually says and just evangelize to other evangelists and make up stories about Jesus' mother having a sexual relationship with Cleophas whose wife was with Jesus' mother and her sister and Mary Magdalene and Jesus' lover while he was being executed for sedition (John 19:25-26).Ignored.
But do you have any actual evidence for your claims, or is it just imaginative words in a book?
And have you ever had a face to face conversation with a god as described in Gen 18 or know anyone who has? Or is that story just an imaginative fantasy?
Cool!!! But I stopped believing in Santa and magic and fairies over 65 years ago.Ignored, as faith is not based on evidence.
That's your choice if you want to ignore what the bible actually says and just evangelize to other evangelists and make up stories about Jesus' mother having a sexual relationship with Cleophas whose wife was with Jesus' mother and her sister and Mary Magdalene and Jesus' lover while he was being executed for sedition (John 19:25-26).
And do you have any evidence that Jesus actually died, given that dead bodies do not bleed when they are pricked with a spear to test their reflexes (John 19:34). And if so, why did Joseph and Nicodemus use 30 kg of healing agents, including Aloe vera to resuscitate him (John 19:39-40)?
But why does John 19:25 say that Jesus' mother (Mary) and Mary Magdalene and Mary Cleophas were chatting with Jesus before he guzzled down some wine?So for 11 years you believed in Santa and magic and fairies? I never did. Unlike yourself, I wasn't surrounded by deceivers, who put rubbish into my head. Perhaps that is your problem.
You know sweet B, All, about the scriptures, as I will reveal to all who bother to follow this thread. For I will now ask the questions, which will prove your total ignorance to the scriptures. First Question, "How many women by the name Mary are revealed in the scriptures to have been at the cross, the burial, and the empty tomb of Jesus?
But why does John 19:25 say that Jesus' mother (Mary) and Mary Magdalene and Mary Cleophas were chatting with Jesus before he guzzled down some wine?
And why do Mark 15:40 & Matt 27:55-56 say that Mary Magdalene and Mary Cleophas weren't even near Jesus, and don't even say that Jesus' mother and her sister rushed down from Nazareth to see Jesus being executed for sedition?
I don't necessarily disagree but I leave the ultimate judgment to the one that judges.Correct! And after he was resurrected, he ascended to his father and our Father, to his God and our God, where he now, as revealed in Revelation 3: 21; sits, in the throne of our Father, where he invites all, who like himself, are able to win the victory over the ruler of this world to sit beside him in our Father's throne, from where, according to Paul, they shall judge even the angels.
But I have my doubts if atheists who haunt the religious forums, asking senseless and ridiculous questions in their attempts to rubbish the truth's as revealed in the Holy Scriptures, will ever be invited to sit beside our chosen King and High Priest.
Have you ever actually read the bible? If so, can you tell us why the gospels do not agree on the number of people named Mary who were chatting with Jesus when he was being executed for sedition, and the number of people named Mary who were with Joseph and Nicodemus when they were resuscitating him with the help of 30 kg of healing agents including Aloe vera?You're real keen on asking questions aren't you? but terrified to answer one simple question, and when you do answer that question that has been put to you, and while I am proving your total ignorance to the scriptures, the above questions will be answered.
So let me ask again, How many women by the name Mary, according to the scriptures, were at the Crucifixion, the burial, and the empty tomb of Jesus.
Have you ever actually read the bible? If so, can you tell us why the gospels do not agree on the number of people named Mary who were chatting with Jesus when he was being executed for sedition, and the number of people named Mary who were with Joseph and Nicodemus when they were resuscitating him with the help of 30 kg of healing agents including Aloe vera?
And can you tell us where the bible says the Jesus' mother had a sexual relationship with Cleophas, or did you just make that up?
When you answer the question put to you: "How many women by the name Mary, do you believe that the scriptures reveal were at the crucifixion, the burial, and the empty tomb of Jesus," all will be revealed to you.