*hugs*I did not choose to be gay. I didn't want to be gay. I sat in the parking lot of a gun store for an afternoon trying to work up the courage to "not be gay".
Tom
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*hugs*I did not choose to be gay. I didn't want to be gay. I sat in the parking lot of a gun store for an afternoon trying to work up the courage to "not be gay".
Tom
Thanks.*hugs*
Bisexual, eh? How you doin'? (Please note the 50% increase in chances of rejection).
Sorry if this is in the wrong section; just noticing. People get hurt over comments and questions like this and it helps to point out contradictions rather than debate over the issue. Debates don't help if the other does not want to learn in discussion how their view is incorrect.
Shava. You have my permission to quote me if you'd like to clarify with scripture how I'm wrong in Religious debates. Just don't understand what you're saying. Your logic over the issue.
Just looking over this after the last reply and had to go into more detail cause the debate is ridiculous if you actually see the definition of homosexuality as an action in contrast to the identity not action that GBLT describe of ourselves.
Find a verse that talks about sexual orientation.
Homosexuality and the Bible
Show me in the Bible where the word gay is mentionedLeviticus 18:22, "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination."1
Show me in the Bible that only gay people commit homosexual actions
1 Corinthians 6:9-10, "Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, 10 nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, shall inherit the kingdom of God."
Are they talking about gay people (same-sex orientation) or is god talking to any one?
Show me where according to the Bible homosexuality is only about gay people
Romans 1:26-28, "For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, 27 and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error. 28 And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper."
Show me in the Bible where these verses have anything to do with two men or two women have a committed relationship with each other unto death do they part just as a male and female.
Notice these verses above do not talk about gay people but people's actions and their desires. It does not differentiate between who is gay, straight, bi, trans, etc.
If I'm wrong, show me in scripture.
Do you know why homosexuality is wrong according to the Bible?
It isn't wrong because of actions. Straight people can be homosexuals too according to the Bible.
There is only one reason relationships not talking about sexual actions are a sin against the Bible. I can tell you what, if you'd like.
Do you not realize when this was written, and the fact that people used different words then to describe the same thing today. You need to understand the world of language, linguistics, as words do change and some are used in multiple ways, but the bible is clear on a man or a woman lying with there same to mean having sex with the same as one is, it's very clear, but man likes to believe it isn't, especially if one is gay.
I absolutely agree with you.the bible is clear on a man or a woman lying with there same to mean having sex with the same as one is, it's very clear, but man likes to believe it isn't, especially if one is gay.
The word gay has more than one meaning and more than one slang, do you not realize that many people use the word gay as being a ***, queer, queer is a word that the gay community has bought.
Do you not realize LGBTQT, will soon be changed to include pedophiliaes and beastiality which will be LGBTQPB. They to want there so called rights to be happy like the lesbians, homosexuals and transsexuals demanded and got, so when will the spiral of moral decay end?
Save that comment for Jesus on judgement day, and I'm sure he'll reply, although you're not gonna like his reply, but it doesn't have to be like that, as you still are alive, and this means you could repent and be baptized and go to Romans 16:16.I absolutely agree with you.
The Bible is a homophobic old relic. It was written by scientifically and ethically primitive people many centuries ago.
That is the category it should be put in.
Nothing to do with God.
Tom
You know what?Save that comment for Jesus on judgement day, and I'm sure he'll reply, although you're not gonna like his reply, but it doesn't have to be like that, as you still are alive, and this means you could repent and be baptized and go to Romans 16:16.
God isn't bias and I am not being bias, so stop your lying. I simply stated what God says, and that the way people that live this lifestyle is an abomination, this is his words not mine, get your facts straight or don't reply to me as I can't stand a liar as you are.
I do not know quite how to take that. I am a lesbian.
1. Ask a gay person how he or she wants to be identified as.
Only there will you get your appropriate definition. How you just defined gay people is a complete insult to who they are and what they do. Basically calling us not human.
2. Many gay people use queer as an identity term. It is not slang anymore than calling you straight.
3. LGBTQT AND S includes pedophilia and bestiality.
4. We want rights to be treated as every straight person is.
Ask each individual person how they feel. I am for gay rights; and I am not an activist. Don't watch t.v. and guess based on what you see. Get to know people without bias.
I can't talk with you right now, though. What you have said is definitely not Christian, not Jesus' centered, and definitely against the rules of the General Forums and inappropriate for any debate forum.
Why would I believe that you know more about God than Neo Deist, St Frank, or Shiva Fan?I simply stated what God says,
God isn't bias and I am not being bias, so stop your lying. I simply stated what God says, and that the way people that live this lifestyle is an abomination, this is his words not mine, get your facts straight or don't reply to me as I can't stand a liar as you are.
You know what God is Jesus incarnate in human form, who came into this world and was called Jesus , and you have demonstrated total lack of biblical knowledge or the willingness to learn anything of the bible.You know what?
I don't think you know anything important about Jesus, much less God. You have demonstrated that well enough for me.
Tom
Don't believe me, believe the scriptures that I give, you have the ability to comprehend it just as I do. Tell me what this scripture means to you and I bet it means the same to me, ready? Mark 16:16, He that believeth and is, "and is" being a conjunction, He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved, he that believeth not, shall be damned, now tell me what this means, as I know you will say it means the same as I would or anyone else with common sense would say.Why would I believe that you know more about God than Neo Deist, St Frank, or Shiva Fan?
Tom
This still doesn't give me a reason to believe that you know any more about Jesus than I do. I think you are doing the same thing Christians have always done.You know what God is Jesus incarnate in human form, who came into this world and was called Jesus , and you have demonstrated total lack of biblical knowledge or the willingness to learn anything of the bible.
From Moses to John, and all in between, as each one of these individuals were divinely guided to write exactly what God directed them to write, nothing more, nothing less.When did God write words?
Don't believe me, believe the scriptures that I give, you have the ability to comprehend it just as I do. Tell me what this scripture means to you and I bet it means the same to me, ready? Mark 16:16, He that believeth and is, "and is" being a conjunction, He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved, he that believeth not, shall be damned, now tell me what this means, as I know you will say it means the same as I would or anyone else with common sense would say.
Just read your bible.This still doesn't give me a reason to believe that you know any more about Jesus than I do. I think you are doing the same thing Christians have always done.
Invent a Jesus in their own image and then worship it.
Tom
I have read and comprehended the Bible. It doesn't say what you want it to say.Don't believe me, believe the scriptures that I give, you have the ability to comprehend it just as I do.